I think my big problem is that Batman, and DC media has become super reliant on the Joker as a villain.
Like Scarecrow, Two-Face, Bane, Black Mask, Hugo Strange, Ras Al-Ghul and Mister Freeze can serve as antagonists in just as interesting ways

This is not really a hot take but don’t u hate it when people criticize the Batman character for not killing joker and they criticize the no kill rule and all that stuff but they don’t criticize Spider-Man who has a no kill rule. Also they don’t criticize the government of Gotham city, seriously why does Batman have to be the one to end the joker ? Why doesn’t the city of Gotham ban together and protest to make joker have the death penalty ?

For me, Telltale’s version of the Joker was quite refreshing take on the character, as they made him an actual character, rather than just an evil clown that commits genocide, and have him a personal connection to Batman, with even him  it knowing about his own past, which fits with Joker being so mysterious. Also, Anthony Ingruber did an amazing job voicing him.

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As long as it’s a limited or minor role, I don’t mind Barry Keoghan returning as The Joker.

Excluding joker, Scarecrow is probably the best batman villain in my opinion.
In my opinion joker is not overrated, just overused.

Joker is a clown, he should be funny while making us feel bad by thinking he is funny and be a alegory about of the absudits of society.

I didn't see the Community post in time, but here is one hot take I have.
I think Joker is used WAY TOO MUCH, characters like Scarecrow rarely get the spotlight while Joker is in almost every Batman movie.
And if he IS IN a movie, I want him to at least have a few scenes of him being Red Hood.

Joker backstories are so funny like what how do any of these make him into one of the greatest chemists in the world

Cameron Monaghan is the best live action joker fight me. He originally was only supposed to show up in one episode but he gave Such a good two minute performance that they wrote the whole series for him

Don't think I've seen this take before but I think it'd have been cool if they let Jason Todd kill the Joker in Under The Red Hood. Would have been the perfect ending to that storyline. Jason gets his revenge and establishes himself as a rival for Batman and Joker gets a satisfying end as Batman fails to save him and indirectly caused his death

I think Joker should take a good break from being in media and comics for now. Maybe 5 to 10 years. Batman has so many good villains that are barely used because of the Joker. He’s an amazing villain but we need to see more of Mad Hatter, Ratcatcher, Killer Croc, Hugo Strange and Man Bat.

One thing I don't like is that everyone is a side character to him, like the whole premise of the Arkham games was that Batman faces half of his rogues gallery in one night and his endgame is always The Joker. In a lot of stories he feels like pretentious murderer that manipulates people to join him. He really is Charles Manson favoured by writers.

I like the idea of Punchline, a chronically online clout chaser who chooses to be a joker henchman for fame. If the writers did her justice she could be an interesting character. They just need to lean away from the Harley Quinn replacement thing

I actually like Harley's heroic turn, i see it as an evolution of her btas iteration. When its done right tho, like in Injustice or (a more canon example) Joker War. Where she doesn't deny that shes CHOSEN to do horrible things. Heck, in joker war she even admits that she deserves to die. She tells clown hunter "do it if itll make you feel better" because she and the joker hurt him. In btas there were a few moments where she helped batman, or where she reformed.

I actually like what Punchline offers because of this, a way for Joker to still have a partner without Harley. As a harley replacement. Kinda like admitting he needs her without directly stating it. Shes also another example of his manipulation. He has her believing hes the hero gotham needs. Its more then just love. He INSPIRES her with pure charisma. She believes theres a POINT to his madness, that its NECESSARY

I also like White Knight's Marian Drew. Shes another good alternative to Harley, since shes based on modern "new 52/suicide squad" harley, where harley is way more crazy and murderous and lustful (whereas harley even in the comics pre-n52 was always more cartoony)

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I LOVE YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION OMG
I never thought someone would share this exact idea with me

So i agreed with most of these opinions!!! However, my hot take (one among many) is that i hate how everybody wants Joker out of Batman stories. The Joker, when there is an unseen method to his madness, is the perfect Batman villain. Characters like Bane, Ra's al Ghul, and Deathstroke are great villains for Batman for many reasons, but Joker was constructed as Batman's perfect foil. I think he is necessary not for every Batman story, but for every Batman canon. He needs to always be the nemesis, and he always needs to do something big. Hes a showman at heart. That being said, i dont think he needs to be the main villain in every atory. Some stories simply have nothing to do with him, but even in those that do he doesnt have to be the main focus. Thats because, even with the best of villains, the more you use it the more boring it gets. I think they need to save Joker for when he actually serves the story, but they shouldnt despise the idea of including him either. Without Joker, Batman simply isnt explored to the same depth. That being said, while i think Joker is the best Batman villain, my actual favorite is Riddler and i love his whole Rogues' Gallery. Other villains can be the focus. And if Joker serves the overall theme of the main story, he could do something flashy and dramatic on the side.

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I wish they made the joker be red hood still in Matt reeves Batman, he’s supposed to not be the joker yet anyways, would’ve been cool to see

The Joker by Brian Azzarello and Lee Bermejo is an horrible comic book that got elevated only by Bermejo's art.
If you want to read a good Batman story with Lee Bermejo's art there's Batman Noel.
Just read how in both these comics Joker punishes one of his goons that failed him.
In Azzarello's Joker you have him rape his goon's ex-wife forcing his goon to see this while Killer Croc blocks him while in Noel Joker surprises his goon during Christmas wearing a Santa's hat and using a sack full of board games and preparing to kill his goon after making a pun that references Cluedo.
The first is absolutely not Joker but Azzarello doing his usual edgy nonsense stuff

My favourite iteration of Joker is from the Batman 2003 cartoon. He wasn’t just a copy of B:TAS Joker and he stands out in terms of design when compared to every other version of the character. I like Mark Hammils version of the Joker I do feel slightly disappointed whenever they make new Batman games or shows but only try to mimic his version of the character.

This isn’t an unpopular opinion, but I think it would be a cool idea if Batman died, and the Joker found that crime was boring Because no one could stop him, and he already became super wealthy. so what if he becomes a hero because that has more action and more fun and the joker is all about action and fun