UPD: The "Nitro cheat" chat message is now CONFIRMED to be fake. The person faking the message confessed themselves that it had been faked intentionally. Venusian knew it was fake from the beginning, yet he decided to use false evidence in his video: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/988018375659769898/1019559475658625044/12312313223.PNG
As for other clips, the cheaters that worked with Venusian have agreed on being wrong about their claims. Almost all the clips were gathered by a person named JadedRoses, who has accepted the fact that their evidence has been debunked by this video.

DISCORD:      discord.gg/EMZhDXV
TWITCH:        twitch.tv/vorobey69

Cheaters: "Fatmagic hacks, we have proofs!"

Valve's Hitreg: "The fuck you don't."

Fatmagic isn't a cheater. He's much worse: A player who's perfected playing sniper to the point it makes playing on any map with open spaces a pure nightmare to play on.

12:39 God forbid you pre-aim in a very well known choke point on the map. People like this are just ridiculous.

For the longest time, I'd always thought that Valve should port the Overwatch system that they use in CS:GO (a volunteer program where regular players can watch demos of reported matches and vote on whether they think the person is cheating or not - with enough convictions awarding them with a matchmaking ban) over to TF2 for our community to use to mitigate the uselessness of VAC. But after seeing how many people actually believe that Fatmagic is cheating, I've changed my mind. Way too many TF2 players have no idea how this game actually works for an Overwatch system to be effective. Anyone who has played for more than a few hundred hours should be able to recognize that hit registration in TF2 is garbage, and slightly offset crosshair placement should honestly never be used as concrete evidence for cheating. But apparently not. Appreciate the amount of work that went into this video.

Also, it's worth noting that just because a cheater confirms an accusation when it's not based on cheating software functionality, it doesn't mean much. The majority of cheaters simply don't play TF2 the way it's intended to be played. I was once accused by a long-time cheater of using Silent Aim because they saw a clip where I did damage when my crosshair was not on a player. What they failed to see was that my sentry gun was doing the damage. Cheaters cheat because they are bad at the game. So they are not exactly the best source of information when it comes to the functionality of TF2. Not to mention, most of them never pass up an opportunity for a few scraps of attention on YouTube. Something to keep in mind.

So now that this video is out, I would love to give an actual response to any potential questions anyone may have about any of the clips. I will start with some questions I get asked the most

- Why did you not respond to the initial evidence?

Because the evidence is laughable, shows no knowledge of the game or basic fps mechanics, and was created by a joke of a personality human being, so I did not want to feed into dumb drama or converse with an idiot

You however, I would love to discuss literally anything you think is suspicious by me and actually have a real conversation about it! Whether it be here or over a call, or even in a vid idk
Your video is well researched, knowledgeable and I appreciate you covering this. (Though I think it''s funny that you said you were researching me before the allegations haha)


- Why was your aim better before?

The reason I am rustier now is because I don't play as much as I used to. When I was in highschool and working at Domino's, I could easily log 80+ hours /2weeks. Now that this is my job, my time is split between Editing, Recording, playing other classes, Life stuff etc. In fact, there was a time where I only logged 15 hrs in 2 weeks for several months straight. (Though I am adding an aiming regimen to my schedule to make sure that not only do I get back to how I was, but get even better. I talk about it in some of my vids. I would like to go professional one day) Stay tuned for some sick games coming up on the channel!


Also all the triggerbot evidence I see is either me wanting to line up a shot for an assured kill, charging up dmg for a shot, or just being indecisive

It's obvious that he isn't a cheater because he's always happy in his videos. Cheaters are sad angry people, they wouldn't shine the genuine joy that Fatmagic does

I have also successfully debunked that you don't have a real moustache, confess Vorobey.

Shameless attention seekers don’t understand that there always will be a person can debunk their hoaxes. Awesome job, Voro.

That clip where VR accuses Fatmagic of wallhacks is especially stupid since that's a common goddamn sniper position. Fatmagic didn't even need to see him a few seconds earlier, there's spots where you always half expect a sniper to be and can preaim accordingly. Hell it's not even just a common sniper spot, it's a common spot for people to be in general when the cart is in that area.

"The Fatmagic cheats" video started the biggest butterfly effect in the whole TF2 community

People also like to forget that the average 15 minute gameplay video is made from multiple hours of footage with the fun parts cherry picked. And fatmagic doesn't even cherry pick that much either, half of his videos are him missing these crazy flicks.

Its crazy to remember that venusianrapper destroyed himself just because lf terrible evidence for fatmagic

One of the things that annoyed me the most with this guy's original video accusing Fat Magic of cheating is the ending to it when he cited the fable of Icarus. Out of everything, it was the most annoying because it perfectly summarized the rest of his video: excessive fart huffing while thinking he knows more than he actual does. If he wanted to do real research, he should've started by looking up "confirmation bias" and "Dunning-Kruger."

I ran into VenusianRapper in casual yesterday. Was playing spy and got a couple nice trickstabs. He would use the bind "bad paste" whenever he killed me. I was really confused bc I still don't get what that means, and because I hadn't even killed him that game, much less pulled any trickstabs on him; I even failed easy stabs on him several times. The moment I got autobalanced to his team, he said in VC "go get 'em with your autobackstab". I didn't know it was him until I read his profile. Seems like he just likes to randomly accuse people.

People are still trying to defend Venusian, when he HIMESELF fled the community after being demolished by facts and logic? I mean damn, didn’t think this many people had -100 IQ.

Even if Fartmagic does end up cheating, Venushawn's case was so flawed that it might end up aiding Fatmagic if ever because of how sloppy, unreliable, and far fetched the "evidence" is.

this whole drama is like the biggest compliment to a gamer
i envy fatmagic

Like you said at 10:37, that clip from the Vorobey guy was pretty suspicious. You should do a hacker police episode on him

I'm a staff member on a TF2 server. I can say with certainty that Venusian doesn't know the first thing about detecting a cheater. In his final hard evidence section where he shows the snap, I would have thought "Wow, that's suspicious and looked liked cheats!" but I wouldn't ban based on one clip like that, no good staff member would unless it is blatant enough, which this clip isn't. What you should look for when spectating a suspected cheater is consistent patterns, if that snap happened over and over, it would be a lot more suspicious, but you can see in the clip that right after the flick shot, he goes to shoot someone else and MISSES THE SHOT. Looking at one clip out of a single play session isn't enough to determine someone a cheater most of the time, and slapping these suspicious clips from several sessions together and saying "Look he's cheating!" is disingenuous and misleading.