Do you guys like freaks in open or balanced physiques? Or maybe a mix of both?

It’s all about the gut.. if the gut and waist is small, u good, regardless of the size..

I would like to argue the best physiques of Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler and Dorian Yates are when they weigh in the lowest, the mass is freaky and dense but the conditioning and balance X-frame are present as well. It's just hard having that balance when top open guys just have so much mass on them now it's almost impossible to slim down to have that balance silhouette.

I think jake is the only guy who still makes informative and well studied videos cause nowadays all the so called bb youtubers are getting into all these bs controversies and stuff.. to me you make the best videos about bodybuilding right now.. keep it up Jake❤️🙌🏻

This argument has been going on since Sandow. Before him, body building was something seen at sideshows in circus acts—and it was not particularly popular. Sandow made bodybuilding about sculpting the Grecian ideal. Intentionally moving the perception from a freak show to a thing of beauty. And when muscle is rewarded without consideration to how to it is sculpted, we are turning the sport into something that took decades to move away from — and towards something people don’t want to see.

Two ideas for future videos:
- Best ever Monster Muscles
- Top 10 Belly Masses

It's not the end of the mass monster, but it is the end of the Short Kings and a return to the normality. Andrew Jacked simply towered over Walker and Choopan.

Really great video!

Guys, let’s be perfectly honest here. The 70s was the weakest era of all time.
Guys were winning the Mr. Olympia and big competitions between nine and 12% body fat proportions were thrown out the window . Upper bodies overshadowed lower bodies tremendously  .  

Lee Haney an Samir both represented what bodybuilding should be up  until that time . Samir had stellar conditioning with good size and proportions were out of this world, Lee brought  phenomenal proportions, size and  aesthetics. He was thick and especially in 91 shredded to pieces . That’s the most important part having the size and proportions becoming and peel.


So that you guys that represent with bodybuilding should be, but this is a very important nuance the 1993 snd 95 Dorian an 98 and 99 Coleman . Those four versions of those bodybuilders is peak bodybuilding .

In fact, if you pause the video at exactly 11 minutes and 18 seconds, Dorian in that front relaxed hit his best front relax of all time but also that shot represents what Peak bodybuilding should be. Phenomenal proportions, phenomenal mass and still with a reasonably small waist and crazy conditioning. That is bodybuilding right there.

Of course you had everybody in that damn 93 Olympia represented what bodybuilding should be

Both Dorian and Ronnie also mangled with body booming should be by both of them coming in, blown out mid sections over the top huge off on the market and conditioning with proportions that were terrible. So did they both represented what bodybuilding should be in a bodybuilding shouldn’t be it just dependent on the year.

But the early version of Ronnie Coleman are unbeatable and close to perfection. The only bodybuilder that comes to mind today that has the ability to combine everything together and look unreal and still aesthetic as Andrew . The only thing Andrew hasn’t done yet is bringing that door dropping conditioning. That’s all that’s missing. I don’t care about his hamstrings or whatever he comes and peeled beyond belief he’s not losing again.

Sampson also has that ability it’s just all about what he does with that new mess he just put on if he comes in shredded he can easily win and be a fantastic representative of what bodybuilding should be.

I enjoyed this quite a lot. Good job.

I think you are spot on identifying 2018 Rhoden vs Phil as a massive turning point. Great video. thank you.
I don't agree with everything though. I think some bits and pieces of conversations are missing. Like, for example, Franco Columbo, who doesn't really fit your descripions of the 70s and early 80s at all. and he won Mr O.
Also, I really don't like the missing discussion of SEO/enhancments in the current era. It's not only worse it has ever been, it also makes the physiques less detailed and sharp then you verbally present them.
Also Andrew Jakced is not aesthetic. Let's come together and finally dispell this absolute lie we have been told. he is enormously misshapen, can't pose, clearly doesn't have real muscle, it's time to bury this narrative.
just look at his front lat spread at 0:27. now focus on right (our left) lat. it is doing the same thing Tonio Burton's lat is doing, you can see it in transitions in NY Pro and Pittsburgh. Do you how there is this lump under the top of the lat? and how it rolls out extremely strangely? Yeah. (0:30-0:32 is the best look)
This is the worst thing in the modern era. not mass monsters, not Nick Walker's waist. This.

Yes, for me Lee Haney was the culmination of that era and philosophy. You still wanted to look like those guys. Now when i see the open class, i just hope they are keeping some symbolism of health for their future.

For better of for worse, and due to the fact there is a classic physique category now a days, we are entering the era of the "Most Complete" physique in open bodybuilding. The one with the least flaws and weaknesses in each pose as a whole (not in each musclegroup). Otherwise, there would simply be no wright limit in classic physique and we would pick the one who could grow the biggest without blowing up his midsection...

Good video 🎉♥️

The 90s and 2000ds  were the best we saw the most impressive physiques the 2010s with phil rolley were impressive too

This was an amazing video and analysis, you deserve so much recognition for going into so much detail and description. Keep it up 🔥

incredible video dude. i hope youtube ad sense is paying you well

I don’t think open bodybuilding is anything specific right now. I think the guy who comes in with the most boxes checked is the eventual winner. Samson can win, Andrew can win, Derek can win (yuck), hadi can win….I think the only “identity” of the modern era Olympia, is that you cannot have a huge gut. What I mean is the most massive guy can win, the most structured guy can win, the most conditioned guy can win, the most balanced guy can win, but the one thing that cannot win is a guy with a big muscle gut……I think once Phil Heath lost in 2018 Olympia, a switch was flipped and they kinda mentally said “we will never let ourselves (judges) allow a turtle belly competitor win the competition.” I think it really bothered them when Phil was bringing that every year, some really close years vs Kai, and they begrudgingly had to name Phil the champ some years because he was the reigning champ, and there wasn’t a great option to beat him, but I don’t think they liked doing it. This is why I think Nick Walker has a 0% chance to win. It’s unfair to him, but I think even if he somehow got rid of that gut, the image the judges have of him in their minds is tarnished forever. It’s basically his reputation now, the freaky physique, but with the gut.

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I still don't understand how Tonio Burton could win over Krizo. Sure, Tonio looks good, but he has such imbalance between his left and right lats and quads that it would IMO make Krizo's unshapely midsection be almost irrelevant in comparison. I think it's unfortunate if Tonio has some kind of condition that causes his right side to grow slower (maybe some kind of neck or back injury?), but symmetry is one of the absolute most important aspects of bodybuilding IMO. I also don't understand how the judges could give Derek the win in 2025. He looked at least 3-4 weeks away from peaking. It's almost an achievement in itself to look that soft while still having striated glutes, but I guess we all know the reason for that.