Faut-il avoir une vision utilitariste de l'immigration ? - C Ce soir du 14 septembre 2023
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_________________________________________________________________ An opinion piece published Tuesday in Libération has reignited a perennial debate: “Undocumented Workers: A Call for Regularization.” This cross-party piece denounces our “collective hypocrisy” on the issue of immigration.
This initiative comes just weeks before the upcoming immigration law, which plans to introduce a “skills shortage” residence permit, and is causing division on both the left and the right. Some fear a pull factor, a threat to French identity… Others denounce a utilitarian and immoral view of immigration.
So how do we move beyond the constant politicization of the immigration issue? Is immigration a risk, an opportunity, or even a necessity for the French economy? Is a pragmatic and humanistic approach possible? We'll be discussing this with:
📌 Marie-Pierre DE LA GONTRIE, Socialist Party Senator for Paris, Vice-President of the Committee on Constitutional Laws, Legislation, Universal Suffrage, Rules of Procedure and General Administration, co-signatory of the op-ed "We demand urgent, humane and concrete measures for the regularization of undocumented workers" in Libération (September 11, 2023)
📌 Constance RIVIÈRE, Director General of the Palais de la Porte Dorée, author of "La vie des ombres" (The Life of Shadows) published by Stock (September 6, 2023)
📌 Olivier BABEAU, Essayist, President of the Sapiens Institute, Professor of Management Science at the University of Bordeaux
📌 Sami BIASONI, PhD in Philosophy from the École Normale Supérieure, Lecturer at ESSEC Business School, author of "Le statistiquement correct" (The Statistically Correct) published by Éditions du Cerf (September 21, 2023)
📌 François HÉRAN, Demographer, sociologist, professor at the Collège de France, holder of the "Migrations and Societies" chair, author of "Immigration: The Great Denial" published by Seuil (March 3, 2023)
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ses ateliers à St Denis (93) trappes ou quartiers nord de Marseille .
Le format tv ne permet pas les analyses ou raisonnements l’exhaustif.
Ses adversaires ne se donnent pas la peine de l’être ( par ce qu'ils ne le peuvent pas... factuellments)...
Aussi l’arguments massue qui n’a pas été donné c'est qu’à 1500/mois trouver un serveur, un pâtissier qualifié ou un chef, venant d’ici ( fils d'immigrés ou pas) c’est difficile.
Mettez un salaire à 3k/mois et vous aurez le pâtissier ou le chef que vous souhaitez.
Donc la tension réelle qui demande un flux continue de nouveaux immigrés c'est le maintien de niveau de rémunérations en dessous du niveau minimale de vie descente.
Point barre.
😉
Il a effectivement un cv très impressionnant mais cela n'a pas de rapport avec la pertinence ou non de son propos.
On se fout de la gueule de qui ? 😂😂Nous aurions une politique de formation professionnelle au point que l'on ne formerait plus le moindre pâtissier ou le moindre cuisinier !!! De qui se moque-t-on ?
Faut-il avoir une vision utilitariste de l'immigration ? - C Ce soir du 14 septembre 2023
C Ce Soir - France Télévisions
49,767 views
To see the rest of the debate 👉 https://bit.ly/ImmigrationHypocrisie
To see other programs 👉 https://bit.ly/CCeSoir
_________________________________________________________________ An opinion piece published Tuesday in Libération has reignited a perennial debate: “Undocumented Workers: A Call for Regularization.” This cross-party piece denounces our “collective hypocrisy” on the issue of immigration.
This initiative comes just weeks before the upcoming immigration law, which plans to introduce a “skills shortage” residence permit, and is causing division on both the left and the right. Some fear a pull factor, a threat to French identity… Others denounce a utilitarian and immoral view of immigration.
So how do we move beyond the constant politicization of the immigration issue? Is immigration a risk, an opportunity, or even a necessity for the French economy? Is a pragmatic and humanistic approach possible? We'll be discussing this with:
📌 Marie-Pierre DE LA GONTRIE, Socialist Party Senator for Paris, Vice-President of the Committee on Constitutional Laws, Legislation, Universal Suffrage, Rules of Procedure and General Administration, co-signatory of the op-ed "We demand urgent, humane and concrete measures for the regularization of undocumented workers" in Libération (September 11, 2023)
📌 Constance RIVIÈRE, Director General of the Palais de la Porte Dorée, author of "La vie des ombres" (The Life of Shadows) published by Stock (September 6, 2023)
📌 Olivier BABEAU, Essayist, President of the Sapiens Institute, Professor of Management Science at the University of Bordeaux
📌 Sami BIASONI, PhD in Philosophy from the École Normale Supérieure, Lecturer at ESSEC Business School, author of "Le statistiquement correct" (The Statistically Correct) published by Éditions du Cerf (September 21, 2023)
📌 François HÉRAN, Demographer, sociologist, professor at the Collège de France, holder of the "Migrations and Societies" chair, author of "Immigration: The Great Denial" published by Seuil (March 3, 2023)
And for those who want to listen to the show from anywhere in the world OR access episodes no longer available for replay, there are THE PODCASTS:
🟩 On Spotify https://spoti.fi/3n6YltP
🟪 On Apple https://apple.co/3qTuc2p
🟨 On Deezer https://bit.ly/Deezer-C-Ce-Soir
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