The Lean-Left Chip Is a Fad. Ben Doyle Never Needed It | No More Lies Ep. 18

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Sam is out again, so the Good Misses guys sit in. Brian Manzella, Golf Digest's #14-ranked teacher in America, puts a question to Kieran Harris and JT Perrine: where did the lean-left, ball-back chip shot come from, and why is it suddenly everywhere? Neither of them saw anybody teach it 13 years ago. Brian never saw it in 44 years, not from the guys who played with his dad, not in college, not in one issue of Golf Digest.

Then the case against it. Ben Doyle taught the ball off the left foot and could take out a painted line in a bunker with a three wood. There is no mechanical requirement to be in front of the ball except your hands. The Nunez Tour is never going to hit the tour pitch shot, not next week and not after a month at Streamsong. And the 100-golfer contest: wrist-only pitching vs. no-wrist pitching, then the same contest with 100 yippers, and the flick drill that wins it.

Also: arc depth vs. low point defined on Trackman, why handle dragging is the root of most pitching yips, the rope and the three forces, the right-knee rule that shamed a generation from 1960 to the early 80s and then disappeared, Paul Runyan, Seve, Dan Grieve's 3 Releases, and why none of the above is the solution to the worldwide pitching yip epidemic.

Chapters 0:00 Cold open 0:45 No More Lies 1:09 Sam is out. Meet Kieran Harris and JT Perrine 3:05 The Big Lie: where did the lean-left chip come from? 4:59 Brian's short game growing up: chipping on total crap 7:16 Left-leaning spines with the ball back. Why is it a thing now? 9:37 JT: chin over the belt buckle, ball first contact 10:13 Arc depth vs. low point, defined on Trackman 13:38 Nobody taught it 13 years ago 15:04 Kieran: more weight left, never spine tilt left 17:07 Kieran's full-blown chipping yips 19:30 Ben Doyle: the tee drill and the three wood pitch 22:09 No mechanical requirement to be in front of the ball 22:53 The Nunez Tour will never hit the tour pitch shot 25:46 How much angle of attack? JT says 3 to 4 down 26:41 The 10-handicapper lesson test 28:28 Kevin from the Nunez Tour goes to Toronto for a pitching lesson 31:35 The "I'm not getting under it" crowd 34:31 Through the ball: toss it or keep it up the left arm? 35:23 The 100-golfer pitching contest: wrist only vs. no wrist 39:08 Same contest, everybody has the yips 41:13 The flick drill: hands don't move 42:40 Handle dragging is the root of most pitching yips 44:41 Kieran's de-junk drill: trigger finger on the steel 46:26 JT is going to try the flick 47:07 Where's your data? Ridiculous Trials 48:40 Three forces and three torques: the rope 50:14 Why the bunker shot is easy and the 15-yard pitch isn't 52:58 The right knee: shamed from 1960 to the early 80s 54:36 The lean-left chip is a fad 55:37 None of these are the solution to the pitching yip epidemic 56:35 Paul Runyan and the restricted grip 57:28 Seve's trail shoulder and Dan Grieve's 3 Releases 59:19 What is Good Misses? 60:50 We're golf geeks. Not better, more like you

Kieran Harris runs Feel Good Golf Academy in Toronto. JT Perrine is part owner of Fairhope Golf Works in Fairhope, Alabama. Together they host Good Misses, part of the Funnel Golf slate.

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