Learn more about Pavel and his team's trainings:

📌 https://newlvl.su/intensive/

📌 https://t.me/steklana

"Integrity" - offline training for men in Moscow on August 24.

"Reboot" - offline intensive training for male entrepreneurs in Moscow on September 12-14.

Telegram channel with honest business reviews: https://t.me/+10PbTXAdl21mNzhi
My Instagram*: Instagram: zaya4ello
My VK: https://vk.com/zayats_pavel

Adelina Panina's social media:
YouTube - @adelina_blackmoon
VK - https://vk.com/blackmoonclub
Website - https://www.black-moon.ru
Telegram - https://t.me/blackmoontelegram

My businesses:
Representative of the mobile operator YOTA - 70 locations in 50 cities across Russia. Feniiix.GG CyberArena Network: https://feniiix.gg/
Car marketplace from China: https://carhao.market/
Intermediary services from China: https://taobao.ru.com/
Logistics from China: https://svktrade.com/

What happens when a skeptical entrepreneur and a shaman with six university degrees meet in the same podcast? Pavel Zayats and Adelina Panina discuss esotericism, magical practices, shamanism, tarot, psychology, and the phenomenon of faith. This is an honest dialogue without trying to please, with sharp jokes, personal stories, and thought-provoking facts.

Pavel shares his journey from believing in magic to complete skepticism, and Adelina shares how she combines her abilities, psychology, and working with people. We discuss where help ends and manipulation begins, how to distinguish a professional from a charlatan, and why the esoteric market in Russia is worth almost 2.5 trillion rubles.

Contents:
0:00 — A Hard Approach: I'd Shoot Psychics in the Knees
0:21 — A Billionaire Torah Reader and the Habit of Avoiding Responsibility
1:16 — The Esoteric Market in Russia and a Comparison with Psychology
3:38 — Adelina's Story: From Skepticism to Shamanic Practices
6:36 — Six Higher Education Degrees and the Path to Psychology
10:38 — From Ancient Shamans to Today's Religion
13:02 — Where is Help and Where is Dependence on Esotericists
14:28 — Tests, Experiments, and the Search for Patterns
16:14 — Ethics, Free Work, and Help in Finding People
18:49 — Pavel's Personal Reading: Family, Children, and Family Tasks
23:14 — 10-Year Stages, the Phoenix, and High Sensitivity
27:29 — Discussion of Hit Points, Charlatans, and Fears
32:09 — A Mystical Story in a Crimean Forest
34:27 — Confirmation of Visions and Real-Life Cases
38:41 — Why You Shouldn't Pitch All Esotericists in the Same Box
41:56 — Personal Experience Helping People and Real-Life Rescues
45:12 — How to Recognize Charlatans in Esotericism
48:07 — A Conversation About Religion, Faith, and Energy
51:22 — Examples from Adelina's Practice: From Predictions to Healings
55:34 — Conversation Summary: What Really Works

Do you believe in shamans, or is it all just manipulation? Let us know in the comments!

Subscribe to the channel and like it—we have many more such direct and insightful conversations ahead!

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