„Glaube nichts, was die Regierung sagt“ (Weltwoche-Chef)
{ungeskriptet} by Ben
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Guest: Roger Köppel
Roger Köppel is Swiss, admires Germany — and is deeply concerned.
We are in “the most dangerous historical situation since the end of the Second World War.” And the owner of Weltwoche does not see the reason for this in what he considers supposedly aggressive behavior by Russia, but rather in what he describes as the West’s increasingly arrogant attitude.
“And, terribly, Germany is once again playing a very decisive role in all of this.”
A country that Germans once had every reason to be proud of. A “great country that has endured every imaginable abyss and every soaring high.”
And the former editor-in-chief of the German newspaper Die Welt is not saying this from afar. He knows Germany well, including from inside one of the country’s most important publishing houses. He has also accompanied Viktor Orbán to meet Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv and visited Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
When you listen to the former member of the Swiss National Council speak, it is difficult not to be captivated. He talks about his admiration for Germany, a country that “practically survived its own downfall”; his frustration because it “distresses” him to see “what is happening there now”; and his warning that Germany risks escalating a conflict that, in his view, does not have to exist in this form.
I learned a great deal about democracy from a Swiss man: why Germany is held in such high regard abroad, why we may currently be in the process of jeopardizing that reputation, and how close we might actually be to a Third World War.
Are we really “so blinded by our own sense of goodness that we don’t even realize we are about to repeat the mistakes of the past,” as Roger Köppel puts it?
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CHAPTERS:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:30 - Fear of World War III: The Drone Incident
00:08:20 - Memories of War: Königsberg and German History
00:16:51 - Between Moscow and Kyiv: Impressions from Both Sides of the War
00:32:45 - Media Conformity: From Journalist to Editor-in-Chief of Die Welt
01:03:49 - Independence, Historical Guilt, and the Journalism of Dissent
02:06:00 - Germany’s Path: Democracy, the AfD, and Escalation in Ukraine
03:20:05 - One Final Question
Ben:
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Roger:
Weltwoche Switzerland: [www.weltwoche.ch](http://www.weltwoche.ch)
Weltwoche Germany: [www.weltwoche.de](http://www.weltwoche.de)
YouTube: [@die.weltwoche](@die.weltwoche)
Instagram: Instagram: weltwoche
Twitter/X: Twitter: Weltwoche
Facebook: Facebook: weltwoche
TikTok: TikTok: weltwoche
Telegram: https://t.me/Die_Weltwoche
WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VbB1...
Recorded on: September 2, 2026
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„Glaube nichts, was die Regierung sagt“ (Weltwoche-Chef)
{ungeskriptet} by Ben
2,327,257 views
Guest: Roger Köppel
Roger Köppel is Swiss, admires Germany — and is deeply concerned.
We are in “the most dangerous historical situation since the end of the Second World War.” And the owner of Weltwoche does not see the reason for this in what he considers supposedly aggressive behavior by Russia, but rather in what he describes as the West’s increasingly arrogant attitude.
“And, terribly, Germany is once again playing a very decisive role in all of this.”
A country that Germans once had every reason to be proud of. A “great country that has endured every imaginable abyss and every soaring high.”
And the former editor-in-chief of the German newspaper Die Welt is not saying this from afar. He knows Germany well, including from inside one of the country’s most important publishing houses. He has also accompanied Viktor Orbán to meet Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv and visited Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
When you listen to the former member of the Swiss National Council speak, it is difficult not to be captivated. He talks about his admiration for Germany, a country that “practically survived its own downfall”; his frustration because it “distresses” him to see “what is happening there now”; and his warning that Germany risks escalating a conflict that, in his view, does not have to exist in this form.
I learned a great deal about democracy from a Swiss man: why Germany is held in such high regard abroad, why we may currently be in the process of jeopardizing that reputation, and how close we might actually be to a Third World War.
Are we really “so blinded by our own sense of goodness that we don’t even realize we are about to repeat the mistakes of the past,” as Roger Köppel puts it?
Sponsors: (ADVERTISEMENT)
https://linktr.ee/ungeskriptet_werbep...
CHAPTERS:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:30 - Fear of World War III: The Drone Incident
00:08:20 - Memories of War: Königsberg and German History
00:16:51 - Between Moscow and Kyiv: Impressions from Both Sides of the War
00:32:45 - Media Conformity: From Journalist to Editor-in-Chief of Die Welt
01:03:49 - Independence, Historical Guilt, and the Journalism of Dissent
02:06:00 - Germany’s Path: Democracy, the AfD, and Escalation in Ukraine
03:20:05 - One Final Question
Ben:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ungeskripte...
TikTok: TikTok: ungeskriptet
Instagram: Instagram: ben_ungeskriptet
X: https://x.com/benungeskriptet?s=21
Roger:
Weltwoche Switzerland: [www.weltwoche.ch](http://www.weltwoche.ch)
Weltwoche Germany: [www.weltwoche.de](http://www.weltwoche.de)
YouTube: [@die.weltwoche](@die.weltwoche)
Instagram: Instagram: weltwoche
Twitter/X: Twitter: Weltwoche
Facebook: Facebook: weltwoche
TikTok: TikTok: weltwoche
Telegram: https://t.me/Die_Weltwoche
WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VbB1...
Recorded on: September 2, 2026
{ungeskriptet} is available here on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts.
All other links: https://www.ungeskriptet.com
I open the door to the world of people
you would otherwise never meet.
So you can make up your own mind.
Curious. Truthful. {ungeskriptet}.