This was an enlightening conversation, even for me as a Muslim man.  Looking at it holistically, this isn't a challenge that Muslimahs should have to meet on their own.  Men have as much responsibility in creating the space for women scholars to flourish, especially given the roles we may have inadvertently played in constricting them in the first place.

This conversation is so needed especially today! So glad there are female scholars speaking out for Muslim women like this ❤️ can Muslim men please also be allies to women, too many in comment sections like to spread hate. We need to stick together, men fighting for women and women fighting for men in Islam.

Love the initiative to talk about this topic, we need more of this - but this conversation was so disorganized and hard to follow. A lot of the points were left halfway and I couldn’t hear compelling counterarguments to the identified misconceptions.

I feel like the underlying notion of this conversation is that women should be the "bigger" ones and put in the work that is often lacking from men. However i find this very problematic, especially when we see issues such as sexual abuse, forced marriage, violations of rights in inheritance or divorce situations... Wanting to play the educator against an abuser does more harm than good, as it creates an apologetic environment, in which abusers thrive. It is the responsibility of everyone to bring abusers to justice and it is especially the responsibility of men to stop abusers, when women are physically and culturally prevented from doing so.

I don't think that this was your intention, but i feel that the conversation was not clearing this up. I hope that this reflects on your life's realities to have been blessed with not having to have faced these horrors inshallah. But for a women who got raped and then shunned as the victim, instead of the rapist being prosecuted, trying to teach sunnah to their male peers is a strategy destined to fail.

I'd also like to emphasize that these are not issues limited to muslim communities. Putting the task on women, instead of demanding more from men has not worked outside of muslim communities and i see no reason why it should work inside muslim communities. What did work is fighting the abusive structures and it is a fight that cannot be won by teaching hadith. It is a fight that can only be won by forcing society to hold abusers to account and protect victims.

I love the conversation but I felt like there were unclosed loops like what was actually meant or maybe a wiser explanation of some of the misogynistic examples.
I agree that one mistake or extreme interpretation should not let anyone walk away and I think any student of anything has learnt this no teacher is perfect, it doesn't mean we ignore everything they said after a misstep.

Get knowledge like Aisha RA. She is such a motivating and powerful figure for us woman to look upto. May allah give her the highest position in Jannah❤❤❤

People, Muslim and non-Muslim, love to conflate Islam and their culture. Many of our cultures have many misogynistic elements but our deen doesn't. Allah knows how He created men and women, and He knows what we need to be fulfilled, safe, protected and dignified. Alhamdulillaah.

wow such a great episode learned so much.

I think we're in-between two negative forces pushing us towards this fight mode or victimhood. The western Christian beliefs that actually controls women and even us as Muslims we're subjected to it, and the other one is the immigrant culture that comes from nations all of them been colonized for centuries, by this western Christian colonizing powers. This makes it almost impossible to be subjective and reasonable and all these traits that are being talked about, the only way to attain this is by freeing your soul and this is not an easy journey to reach.

This is such an important topic, needed to be discussed and i think these two females talk show presenters need to talk more on this topic and touch so many other hadiths that a lot of misogynistic men narrate to shut down and control women.

One point I wanna elaborate on by Dr. Tasneem is the community aspect. Yes there may be men who have misogynist biases, but they are still your brothers at the end of the day. Don't lose sight of that. Rather the goal isn't us against them or vice versa. It's about seeking truth. The truh is quran and sunnah. And if someone speaks to us ehat is true from that Quran and sunnah we are obliged to believe regardless of gender. Cuz know even if you don't like it theres surely much good therein for you. And if they tell us wrong whoever it is, it is our job to stand up for truth regardless of gender. Aishah stood up for the truth as she saw it. Not that it was about men vs. women. Becuase that notion doesnt exist in our religion. In the sight of Allah we are both the same. We may have different lives, roles, paths, avenues and struggles, but we can still do it. Our value is the same to Allah(SW). Sisters need to empower themselves with female scholarship abd revive the female scholarship as well. Even if the avenues are limited, go for it. Abd then the question comes, where do I get the strength when evwryone is out to get me? Your strength is Allah(SW). He is your everything. Hes the one who gave you rights. He's the one who can make your burden easy, so turn to him and obey him fully. He is the only one who'll never betray you. Turn to him in your hard times. And obey him even in the things you don't understand. Surely hes doing it for your good abd you can seek out the wisdoms yourself.

The reality is that men conflate their culture with Islam and that's where all the misogyny comes from. No one will give you your rights until you know your won rights and demand them because let's face it gaslighting in religion is constantly used to control and threaten women. And to affirm that women are less than men is an insult to God All Mighty who is THE MOST JUST. Thank you for this conversation.

You have my heart Dr. Tesneen❤❤❤ this series is sth I have been waiting for to watch and its timing really feels like a divine intervention❤❤❤ Jazakallahu khair Yaqeen Institute, may Allah reward you all for your efforts without measure ❤❤❤❤❤ much love from Kashmir❤❤❤

I agree with all of the perspectives shared in this video. I also think that we shouldn't underestimate the burden of care work that falls on women, or the lack of income security many women experience. Not all women experience the same privileges. Those women who don't may have difficulty taking up the mantle of scholarship. But perhaps we can broaden the conversation to include their voices in other ways - that's one way women with more privilege can show up for their sisters. Likewise, as much as we shouldn't create an "us and them" gendered divide with our brothers, we can't be wrong to expect our brothers to correct gender biases in understanding hadith, and to use their work and voice to raise the dignity of all women everywhere.

JazakAllahu Khair for this. Its so refreshing to hear such a balanced perspective in such a polarized world where everything or every idea seems to go to extremes.  Gender roles in Islam arent talked about enough and there isnt enough education on it.

JazakAllah khair for making this video and your efforts. My feedback is to watch this back and just think about whether you can be a bit more clear when you're speaking because it was a bit hard to follow and a lot of loops weren't closed off. For example, what are those ahadith supposed to be interpreted as?
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My two cents, not as a scholar, is that it troubles me how strict women are themselves about things they shouldn't be strict about. Women do need to get an education and not all women are the same. Some are excellent home makers, but some are excellent in different fields. Where do you think that excellence comes from? It is Allah who has created us, lets not forget that. Women were present on the battlefield, advised the Prophet SAW in some difficult times, and were clearly seeking knowledge because they were there asking questions from the Prophet SAW (from my understanding). When the men went to war or had to leave for some reason, do you think they just sat at home? It is difficult to read some of these comments that argue that women are actually deficient in some way.  No, women are not deficient in any way. They are extremely capable of leading, making decisions, doing business, fighting, and of participating in society and they should within the boundaries of Allah, not culture. Lets stop restricting women every time they want to spread their wings, and instead impart knowledge that allows them to do it in a way pleasing to Allah SWT.

My issue with men is only about accessibility of knowledge - women should be able to  openly ask questions, disagree with something if its truly not backed up with evidence, and contribute their own knowledge as well. What is so difficult about that?

My iman is currently very low because I feel that nearly everywhere I turn in my religion I'm hearing people saying in different ways Muslim women are inferior to men, physically and intellectually
Like this 8:34
It is exhausting and depressing, and it is going to take decades (if ever) to clear these misconceptions. Leaving me hopeless.
God bless you for this conversation it was very nuanced and solution focused

May Allah reward you sisters. I needed to hear this years ago!

I love this series❤ its so amazing and empowering to hear these conversations from these incredible women mashaAllah!

I think what helped me a lot on this issue was seeing Islam as a discursive tradition. Things can always be reinterpreted or re-examined. A single hadith can have a variety of opinions on what it means or whether it is even authentic! Fiqh in sunni Islam is a very human endeavor and not divinely inspired.

Navigating modernity as a traditional Muslim is difficult, but we have to remind ourselves that our past has much wisdom to learn from and build upon Inshallah.