When I first started getting seriously into music an older musician said you need to always remember that studio is studio and live is live. What works in one doesn’t necessarily work in the other.

That is sweet playing and phrasing on that Tele! Beautiful tone!

Smart to talk about live gigging compared to home/studio approach! I've always felt this is something content creators on YouTube don't talk about enough. Many of us get our tone at home and go try and recreate it for 50 people with poor results. It takes a lot of trial and error sometimes and I feel you may have saved people some frustration here. Great video man!

I literally fast forward every guitar video to the first time someone plays the guitar, so it’s nice when the video starts with some good guitar playing.

I've been using my boss gt100 this way for about 10 years after watching videos from the Direct Recording Guitar channel. He uses this approach even with entry-level gear. I currently use the small tonex with my gt100. Thank you for the video.

Geeeze man. You're such a tasteful player. I'm gonna learn that solo note for note. So beautiful.

that riff sounds like beginning of "waiting for 22" queensryche - good vid

Starts with some great tone and tasty playing.  Well done!

Beautiful tones, Richie! And very sensible recommendations. My 2 cts: I think both effects have two uses: as part of the composition (reverb=ambient, delay=repeats), or as a "topping" like you said to give a sense of space. I also use, exclusively, the latter. In that sense, the only order that makes natural sense is "the amp inside the cathedral". Nature doesn't happen the other way around. (and yeah, nothing wrong with subverting nature) To me the rule of thumb is to add these time effects as late as you can in the signal chain.  

Personally, I am not gigging, and for recording, I use a dual amp setup, one with a bit of physical spring reverb in the amp, the other with an analog delay in the loop. It sounds great in the room, and panned hard L,R when mixing.

I always use very little at this recording/producing, to add complexity and space, but I absolutely want to keep space for a room reverb in the master channel to bring ALL the instruments into the same "room" and glue things together.  

Finally: another rule of thumb: I like to use these space effects in a way that you notice when you remove them, but they are almost unnoticeable otherwise.

Cheers!
Leo

I love the way this guy plays. Reminds me of Tim Pierce or Tom Bukovac

Beautiful sounds you have there ❤wow great tone

Thanks. Some great tips. And I love your tone and your playing. 👍👍

One of the reasons most of us like this approach - regardless of the band or producer, there are always reverbs and delays used in the final mix. Even when they are hidden, ducked and tucked, there is ALWAYS processing going on, so what you are describing is pleasing because it more closely mimics what we have heard on countless records, cds, and radio our whole life.

Continuing with the great content. Keep it up, man. Great channel.

Great stuff here, well explained and illustrated. I’m glad you did this video for others discovering this concept, either by analysis with modern gear or in the heat of battle with traditional amps. As a pretty old guitarist I’m more of the old-school type who has certainly had to run delay or reverb device levels extremely low when playing into cranked amps. Yeah, it’s sounds like old iconic stuff but then there’s no way to use that sound or signal-chain dynamically consistent. You get it all set for the full-blown tone but as soon as you back down your guitar the reverb or delay just dies in the mix. I could go on. I’ve done countless rigs before the word modeler was ever uttered to combat this problem. There are ways to do it well. Even Eric Johnson had a cranked-amp mic into a stage PA with post effects. But I’ve found other devices allow time-based effects post cranked amp. Some very cool attenuators(not that you even have to use the attenuation) have effects loops and eq post the output of the amp that allow placing ambient effects after the amp’s ridiculous dynamic capability. Otherwise running a string of effects straight into an amp pretty much requires running that amp very clean and relying on the pedals solely for higher-gain sounds. Good luck. No fun. This is a great subject a lot of players have difficulty grasping, I applaud you addressing it.

I also prefer having the delay and reverb after the amp. The biggest difference for me is that when the reverb is placed before the amp, it stays in mono. To make a fair comparison, you should use two amps so the delay and reverb can be heard in stereo. That way, the guitar fills a lot more space. It’s ideal for rhythm guitar and worship tones.

Great playing

If you play a Dr Z, buy a BOSS TAE CORE, plug your amp and now you've got an Fx Loop, a balanced XLR to FOH with your preamp signal and any IR that you ever want.....

So true!  I Love putting time-based effects after the AMP!  I have indeed done this with the Tonex One, but typically I am putting them in the FX Loop of my Synergy head, so between the pre-amp and power amp sections.  I don't tend to use power amp distortion so this is totally workable.

Placing your reverb and delay after the amp (or in an effects loop) is technically "cleaner," but it can sound incredibly sterile, predictable, and flat.  I see it as mainly good for top 40 pop and country music. Super polished sound.