INTERVIEWEE: Rimma Volynska-Bogert
INTERVIEWEE’S BIOGRAPHY AND DETAILED THEMES DEVELOPMENT: https://sztetl.org.pl/en/oral-history...
INTERVIEWER: Józef Markiewicz
OPERATOR: Przemysław Jaczewski
RECORDING DATE: 10th June 201
RECORDING COPYRIGHT: POLIN Museum of the History of the Polish Jews
THE MOST IMPORTANT THEMES:
00:00:00 – History of the "Babel" cabaret under the direction of Natan Tenenbaum, learning songs, learning Yiddish through songs, performances at the Jewish Theatre and at the club of the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland.
00:05:30 – Significance of Natan Tenenbaum, cabaret repertoire, Tenenbaum's lyrics, Polish poetry, pre-war Jewish cabaret.
00:07:40 – Education through cabaret.
00:10:45 – Formation of political and civic awareness, awareness of love and eroticism through cabaret songs.
00:15:00 – Interest in contemporary Polish cabaret, the relationship between cabaret and the political situation.
00:17:40 – Recalling a conversation with Natan Tenenbaum about the division between Polish and Jewish culture, dreaming of co-creating Polish culture as a Jew.
00:23:30 – Future plans before March ‘68, suggestions by educators from the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland.
00:26:00 – The possibility of being an artist only in Poland by factors more important than the mother tongue, the feeling of connection with the place where the ancestors lived.
00:30:00 – Mother's feelings after the war, the possibility to experience Jewish identity in the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland, feelings of otherness, lack of connection to religion, lack of acceptance by the partner's family, the mother's opinion about the political system of the People's Republic of Poland.
00:39:00 – The events of 1967-1968 from the perspective of a cabaret, the political involvement of some authorities of the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland, questioning of friends, political unawareness of the interviewee.
00:44:20 – Reaction to Władysław Gomułka's speech, mother's fear.
00:47:35 – Friends' departures, marriage, going to the United States, starting a university career, scientific interests.
00:57:00 – Harm and trauma caused by the forced emigration.
00:58:20 – Attachment to the Polish language, reflection on Polish culture, contact with Czesław Miłosz at Berkeley University, adoption of Czesław Miłosz's inclusive concept of Polishness.
01:03:00 – Activity in Polish-Jewish organisations as a consequence of understanding Polishness.
01:07:25 – The process of restoring her citizenship, having to write one's biography, a sense of justice and happiness.
01:15:55 – Children's connection to Polishness, daughter's regret that her mother did not teach her the Polish language, interest in Polish history.
01:19:15 – Restoration of the Polish citizenship.
01:21:05 – Plans to visit Poland with children. Children and their citizenship.
01:24:25 – Reflection on the entanglement of the lives of individuals and whole groups in historical processes, dependence on the political system.
01:25:20 – The message that could come from remembering the March events; the need to broaden the definition of Polishness.
01:33:40 – Photos from the convention of the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland in Żary.
01:39:40 – The importance of Yiddish for Jewish culture after the war, the lack of language transmission from parents, the Jewish theatre as a centre important for Jewish identity, the opinion of a new generation of Poles.
Check out our oral history collection: https://sztetl.org.pl/en/oral-history
Subscribe to our channel: @historiamowionapolin
Check out POLIN Museum’s other channels:
POLIN Museum: mhzp2013
Virtual Shtetl (history and culture of the Polish Jews): wirtualnysztetl
Polish Righteous (stories of Polish Righteous): polscysprawiedliwi
Contact: digital@polin.pl
INTERVIEWEE: Rimma Volynska-Bogert
INTERVIEWEE’S BIOGRAPHY AND DETAILED THEMES DEVELOPMENT: https://sztetl.org.pl/en/oral-history...
INTERVIEWER: Józef Markiewicz
OPERATOR: Przemysław Jaczewski
RECORDING DATE: 10th June 201
RECORDING COPYRIGHT: POLIN Museum of the History of the Polish Jews
THE MOST IMPORTANT THEMES:
00:00:00 – History of the "Babel" cabaret under the direction of Natan Tenenbaum, learning songs, learning Yiddish through songs, performances at the Jewish Theatre and at the club of the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland.
00:05:30 – Significance of Natan Tenenbaum, cabaret repertoire, Tenenbaum's lyrics, Polish poetry, pre-war Jewish cabaret.
00:07:40 – Education through cabaret.
00:10:45 – Formation of political and civic awareness, awareness of love and eroticism through cabaret songs.
00:15:00 – Interest in contemporary Polish cabaret, the relationship between cabaret and the political situation.
00:17:40 – Recalling a conversation with Natan Tenenbaum about the division between Polish and Jewish culture, dreaming of co-creating Polish culture as a Jew.
00:23:30 – Future plans before March ‘68, suggestions by educators from the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland.
00:26:00 – The possibility of being an artist only in Poland by factors more important than the mother tongue, the feeling of connection with the place where the ancestors lived.
00:30:00 – Mother's feelings after the war, the possibility to experience Jewish identity in the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland, feelings of otherness, lack of connection to religion, lack of acceptance by the partner's family, the mother's opinion about the political system of the People's Republic of Poland.
00:39:00 – The events of 1967-1968 from the perspective of a cabaret, the political involvement of some authorities of the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland, questioning of friends, political unawareness of the interviewee.
00:44:20 – Reaction to Władysław Gomułka's speech, mother's fear.
00:47:35 – Friends' departures, marriage, going to the United States, starting a university career, scientific interests.
00:57:00 – Harm and trauma caused by the forced emigration.
00:58:20 – Attachment to the Polish language, reflection on Polish culture, contact with Czesław Miłosz at Berkeley University, adoption of Czesław Miłosz's inclusive concept of Polishness.
01:03:00 – Activity in Polish-Jewish organisations as a consequence of understanding Polishness.
01:07:25 – The process of restoring her citizenship, having to write one's biography, a sense of justice and happiness.
01:15:55 – Children's connection to Polishness, daughter's regret that her mother did not teach her the Polish language, interest in Polish history.
01:19:15 – Restoration of the Polish citizenship.
01:21:05 – Plans to visit Poland with children. Children and their citizenship.
01:24:25 – Reflection on the entanglement of the lives of individuals and whole groups in historical processes, dependence on the political system.
01:25:20 – The message that could come from remembering the March events; the need to broaden the definition of Polishness.
01:33:40 – Photos from the convention of the Social and Cultural Society of Jews in Poland in Żary.
01:39:40 – The importance of Yiddish for Jewish culture after the war, the lack of language transmission from parents, the Jewish theatre as a centre important for Jewish identity, the opinion of a new generation of Poles.
Check out our oral history collection: https://sztetl.org.pl/en/oral-history
Subscribe to our channel: @historiamowionapolin
Check out POLIN Museum’s other channels:
POLIN Museum: mhzp2013
Virtual Shtetl (history and culture of the Polish Jews): wirtualnysztetl
Polish Righteous (stories of Polish Righteous): polscysprawiedliwi
Contact: digital@polin.pl