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The Queen VS Thatcher: The Battle Over South Africa | The Crown (Olivia Colman, Gillian Anderson)

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In this captivating encounter, my dears, we watch two powerhouses of acting portraying two powerhouses of history. Witness Queen Elizabeth II (Olivia Colman) and Margaret Thatcher (Gillian Anderson) spar in a dialogue of historical weight. They delve into significant matters but fail to see eye to eye, which results in The Queen giving Thatcher what could be perceived as a direct order.

🔎The Crown Season 4, Episode 8 '48:1'

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20 Comments

@MovingPicsOfficial Creator 2 years ago Pinned

Whose side are you on, The Queen or Thatcher?

@SignumInterriti 2 years ago

Not sure the real queen was self aware enough to know she's "a tribal leader in eccentric costumes", but it's a great line and holds much truth.

@raeldor 2 years ago

The way Gillian Anderson says 'Yes, the Commonwealth' is just SO devastating, and such a power play. She really did nail this role 👏👏👏.

@joshmcclellan4838 1 year ago

I wish I could have had one argument with this level of mutual restraint.

@ericdaniel323 2 years ago

Thatcher and Reagan both refused to criticize the apartheid regime, with Reagan going so far as vetoing legislation (a veto that was overridden by Congress).

@jsworpin 1 year ago

“Tribal leader in an eccentric costume”

Spot on description of the monarchy. No way the queen described herself so honestly.

@Poketrainer1234-p5l 2 years ago

Olivia Colman performance is perfect as usual. I still can’t believe Thatcher is played by the same actress that was Scully in X Files. Just wow.

@teriannebeauchamp254 2 years ago

I looked it up. She never did sign the resolution and firmly sided with the white led South African government

@teletran1175 2 years ago

For all Thatcher's rhetoric and pretense on ideals, it was her nepotism that made her reluctant to impose sanctions on South Africa. Her son's business was based there, and he would fund a failed coup in the following years.

@SKPainify 1 year ago

I was a huge X-files fan. I never would have guessed that was Gillian Anderson playing Thatcher.

@TheImperialChannel 2 years ago

Give or take, the British Monarchy IS a tribe in eccentric costumes and much material for tabloids and tourists.

@TheFever77 1 year ago

48:1 was my favorite episode of that season. Margaret Thatcher rejecting all the proposals due to the wording until she was completely satisfied was a genius piece of cinematography.

@jamesvineyard4142 1 year ago (edited)

The line about the Queen seeing the African leaders as equals is laughable. There is no way on God’s green earth she said or felt that way in real life and certainly not behind closed doors.

@JoeKlunder1 2 years ago

Each side did great acting.

@stockschwammchen9392 2 years ago (edited)

As I am German, I have no opinion on the matter discussed. I am just here to listen to two women speaking the most beautifully sounding English that anyone can imagine. Gives me showers down my spine.

@Scholar98767 2 years ago

Thatcher simply failed to take into account how much the Commonwealth meant to the monarch.

@samgrant83 2 years ago

Just bear in mind that Margaret Thatcher was granted a state funeral by the late Queen, something only granted in recent times to Winston Churchill. The Queen and Thatcher had a significant relationship for a significant period and there was respect on both sides as well as differences and forthright debate. All of this dialogue is of course conjecture and drama. The fact remains that Thatcher was respected highly enough to garner a state funeral. It's always a good starting point to analyse their relationship from that - the late Queen didnt' just dish out the state funeral willy nilly. Nothing for Eden, Callaghan, Macmillan, Wilson etc