30:30 This is a non-confrontational way of phrasing the question 'What do we do about the fact (many) farmers hate trees?'. This is an opinion I've heard from more than a few people and seen evidence of myself, now of course there are plenty of farmers who are not like that at all. I'm not saying this is all the fault of farmers but, as said here, they are the biggest group of land mangers with the most of the country's land under their control. Foresters are just as guilty of sticking to the bad 'old' ways but the area they manager is far less.

How do we get the real land managers and owners on-side? Obviously changing the attitudes of people will be the most important factor in successfully changing our land use practices. A lot of people 'on the ground' don't see it paying, don't see it being productive, see it as some green hippy stuff and so on. I am a new forester and I've felt kickback towards ecologically sound and regenerative forestry practices and ideas within the industry, likewise I have heard of farmers talking about the negative reaction from their peers when they have implemented these kinds of practices. This stuff must be made to pay, it has to put money directly into the hands of land owners/managers and they have to realize it. And it can't all come in the form of govt payouts, I really doubt there is the money for that on the scale required and more tax is never good. Having 10,000 townies saying they love trees and support planting/managing woods will produces virtually no results, having 10 farmers, foresters or other kind of land managers support and implement ecologically sound, regenerative, sustainable etc practices will produce measurable results.