I think they're all in The Burn drinking their alcohol of choice and playing triple triad

Pashtarot showed up, saw the Warrior of Light kill everyone in ARR, and peaced out. Probably looked up in Endwalker and was like "Man, I'm glad I decided not to fight that guy."

i like to think when Zodiark dead, those remaining Ascians goes:
"well... shit. Zodiark's gone. What we gonna do now?"
long silence

I'd love to see Hythlodeus again. He's just a super based, underappreciated, and wonderful person.

Seeing this video after Halmarult appereance :o

Reminder that Lahabrea got absorbed into the Nidhogg Eye that Thordan used to power himself up, then Nidhogg used (along with his other eye) to possess Estinien, and then used by Ilberd to summon Shinryu.

Safe to say that Lahabrea's pretty much a goner.

This is a good refresher on all the Ascians we have seen or heard of so far. I completely forgot about some of the ARR cutscenes with the Ascians.

So we DO have a stable time loop. Venat leaves a hole in her sundering spell to let the Paragons go unsundered because she knew that they had to be unsundered to go forward and create the future she heard about but she only heard about that future because it already existed because she let them go unsundered because she heard about the future...
And I've gone cross-eyed.

Ryne is not a reincarnation of Minfiliia
there is a point in shadowbringers where its explained that Minfillia possessed girls on the first
and she was in control most of the time if not all the time for 100 years each time a girl would die she would find another suitable vessel to continue her job
with Ryne however she decided to back away and remove her self from Ryne and give her back her individuality rather than being a puppet controlled by minfilia

i began playing in august 2021, and for the most part of 2.0's leveling i didn't take the ascians too seriously, but that cutscene after the credits, where they revealed zodiark's name... my first ff was 12, and since i knew how powerful he is in THAT game, i immediately realized that the ascians were NOT to be joked around with, and i remember myself saying out loud: "Oh... oh no... oh... oh, oh no...!"

in ff12, there are 13 espers, which are the game's summons. defeat one in a boss fight, you can summon it. they're espers in that they're all creations of the gods that ended up rebelling against their creators in a war which was orchestrated by the holy element esper. the espers lost this war and were banished to the mortal realm... however, of these 13, there was one that didn't partake in this war: Zodiark. he was but a child even in his boss fight, and already at that point the gods feared his growth and so kept him locked as a child when they banished him... and he is the strongest esper by a MILE! hell, it's implied that if he HAD joined the war against the gods, he would've won!
he has unavoidable non-elemental spells, becomes immune to magic for a period of time if you dispel him, has an unlimited range aoe that has a 50% chance of causing death+blind, takes reduced damage from the set damage of guns, and while he's weak to holy, he not only has reflect up whenever he can, the moment you find his elemental weakness, he shuffles his elemental resistances! on top of all this, at 20% his attack and spell speeds increase dramatically, and he becomes permanently immune to physical attacks for the rest of the fight. you MUST defeat him with spells from that point, but he still has reflect up, he still becomes temporarily immune to magic if dispelled, and he still uses that aoe death+blind!
now take that knowledge, and learn that the main villains of 14 worship a god with THAT name... god that was such a moment of clarity

I'm gonna be honest, I was really lost and still a little lost about the whole Ascians group, had no idea what was going on part of the time. But now I completely understand what's happening, thank you for explaining it all

I feel like the Overlord(?) Ascians are personally more dangerous, as seen with Nabriales and Fandaniel. I've even begun to refer to them as "Rogue Ascians" due to their motives being more unpredictable

Watching this after 7.5 and meeting halmarut lol

My take on the future of the ascians is totally speculative, but I kinda have a hunch that the team will want a fresh start and open up a new chapter. We might not see the story of the ascians continue,  at least not in the large scale, because they might want to make room for something new.



And if they are featured, they might be used to explore what it is like when your whole purpose is taken away from you. Do you cling onto the past conflict or are you able to move on and find a new purpose? And what will that purpose be?



Of course it is not easy to make predictions purely in a chronological sense, since we have no idea whether we're even continuing the story from where the Endwalker ended. We might be sent to another shard or suddenly explore another era - whether it'll be past or even future.


But in any case, a really brilliant video that gave a much clearer picture of the group as a whole. Keep up the good work!

I have to say, revisiting a lot of these Ascians and their stories makes you realise how they went from Evil Mwahaha Googieman to Actual People with a Goal they deemed just.
It makes you wonder how much of Endwalker was even planned out back in the days of ARR or even 1.0. We know the model used for Ascian Prime was intended to be the 1.0 Ascian model, so I'd imagine the initial story for the Ascians changed with the move to ARR, but their goals and ways of achieving said goals seemed to change again after Heavensward, more specifically with Shadowrbingers.

I mean why did the Ascians needs Louisoux's staff?
How can the WoL's growth in power be called "the limitless potential of man" when it was the Ancients who had limitless potential and "Man" was seen, rightly so, as a mere fraction of what it once was?
And why did so many of the Ascians look, act and even move like typical villains? Taking pleasure in the torment of those effected by their actions. Just look at the way Mabriales wiggles his fingers at Minphilia. Not exactly giving the impression of someone on a noble mission to bring back the lives lost to bring Zodiark about.

I'm genuinely interested to see where the story was planning to go at each stage of development and how it changed over time.
I mean, we were originally meant to go to Dalamud, not the other way around. So we know how some of the plans changed.

Without Travanchet, there’d be no Alexander.  No time travel for Graha Tia, and the 8th Umbral Calamity would have happened to our time line and we’d be dead.  He’s an awesome Ascian!

Honestly, I’m kind of hoping white auracite doesn’t wipe them out permanently. It’s cool as hell if it does, but it just makes me sad given that if they return to the aetherial sea, they could possibly live in this new world just fine.

As for emmerololth: I’m gonna say it was probably the original and Galuf was wrong. Oversight is the most likely option, but I prefer the “Galuf was wrong” option.

Every time I hear that the Ancients lived “on a star” I keep wonder how the hell they lived on the surface of glowing nuclear fireball in space.

Ascians can only reform if they enter the rift through a crystal of darkness. It looked like Mitron was willingly returning to the star in his final moments. In which case he will probably be reborn as a completely new person. What i'm curious about is how the reincarnation process will handle the unsundered souls that were deposited into the aetherial sea. Do they get reborn as superhumans?

I just wanna see Gaia and Ryne in their coffee biscuits shenanigans. ;-;