Carl could be sat with the most well travelled, well cultured, knowledgeable people from all over the planet and he'd still get them to talk about his career.
I have mixed feelings about Eddie Hearn but he comes across really well in this discussion. He's certainly a man you'd want on your side. Good to see the two men disagreeing in a friendly way with mutual respect. They both know how valuable they've been for each other.
This is what I admire about Eddie is his ability to have a clear and reasonable perspective on situations and where people are coming from. Basically he is great at distinguishing the chiff from the chaff.