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RHOC: Vicki Refuses to Take Accountability + Katie Has Questions About the Cast

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Jami and Katie are breaking down another episode of RHOC, and somehow Vicki’s disastrous trip keeps getting worse.

They get into Vicki blaming everyone else for what happened at her house, her refusal to take accountability, and why Katie thinks the behavior viewers are seeing now lines up with what she experienced firsthand.

Plus, Jami and Katie discuss Heather Dubrow’s massive new LA home, the very different standards the women seem to have for one another, Emily defending Carmella after going so hard on Jen’s relationship in the past, and why some friendships on this cast feel a lot more forgiving than others.

They also get into Carmella and Danny’s relationship, Jen’s latest comments, Shannon attempting to reason with Vicki, and a surprisingly vulnerable conversation between Tamra and Vicki about work, relationships, and what Vicki actually wants from her life.

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00:00 - Intro Montage
00:52 - Jami & Katie Are Back
04:12 - Bravo News Gets Dark
07:26 - Let’s Get Into RHOC
07:48 - Vicki Judges Everyone Else’s Relationships
08:08 - The Psychology of Vicki Gunvalson
09:27 - Katie Says This Is the Real Vicki
10:30 - The Morning After Vicki’s Meltdown
11:28 - Why Did Vicki Come Back to the Show?
11:42 - The $850 “Uber”
12:54 - Vicki Wants Everyone to Pay Her Back
13:30 - Vicki Refuses to Take Accountability
15:06 - Did Vicki Really Only Kick Out Production?
15:54 - Emily Keeps Poking Vicki
17:25 - Heather Dubrow’s Massive LA Home
19:47 - Heather vs. Her Mom
21:27 - Emily’s Double Standard With Carmella
22:09 - Why Can the Cast Forgive Everyone Except Katie?
24:23 - Emily & Shane
32:16 - Carmella & Danny
34:20 - Vicki Won’t Stop Talking About Carmella
35:02 - Vicki Responds to Robyn Dixon
39:58 - Shannon Tries to Hold Vicki Accountable
41:58 - Does Vicki Get a Pass Because She Works?
50:50 - Gina’s Lab Diamond
53:03 - Jami Is DONE With Gina
54:03 - Katie Hired an Etsy Witch
55:07 - “Everything Has an Expiration Date”
55:30 - The Casita Receipts Are Coming
57:04 - Vicki Blames California
58:05 - BMW Live Show Announcement
59:20 - Closing & SpeakPipe

20 Comments

@Kylo-l1c 13 days ago (edited)

IMO , I think the women were jealous of how gorgeous Katie is , and her fabulous sense of style . I really think they hated that the fandom loved you , and called out all of their terrible behavior . But I hope you get a call for Traitors next season . We need more Katie on our TVs please !!

@leslie3550 13 days ago

Heather literally said, "how much do I way?" Wow! Why people have ED. That is completely messed up.

@personalfinanceandwealthCA 13 days ago

I have to say again. Even when travelling you guys have the best audio and video quality. Wow

@DonnaMartin-q2b 13 days ago

Katie is a natural beauty ❤

@CeliaLaurance 13 days ago

I am of mixed race. One of my elderly neighbors is white. When our Asian neighbor passed, her family invited us to the funeral. We went and were surrounded by our neighbor's Asian community. I felt like our presence made them uncomfortable because we didn't look like we belonged. Our neighbor's family embraced us and introduced us as neighbors but it still felt uncomfortable. I went to the same neighbor's grandson's funeral years later. He was mixed race and his community was diverse. I felt like I was included and many people approached me as his neighbor like they knew me. Sometimes we can't help bias but it doesn't cross over to racism.

@angelaneri1904 13 days ago (edited)

Listening from Australia 🇦🇺 totally obsessed with your podcast ❤

@PettyPokey-rr5jt 13 days ago

Just some info about IVIG infusions- (I don't know about use for PANDAS). I have a congenital immunodeficiency disorder, had IVIG infusions monthly for decades (until Insurance crapped out). Every month the infusions were required to take at least 6 hrs, for me, reactions are a massive risk. There are proteins that some are particularly sensitive to, infusions can take even longer. That was as an adult, docs might be extra careful with a child. They are at JHH Pediatric Immunology.
In any case, we should not know about Luke's situation at all- he is unprotected, for an exploitative storyline!

@BravoTimes5 13 days ago

Katie, don't be shy, share the Etsy witch :)

@alexandrasmith8716 13 days ago

I'm really loving getting to watch all your videos and the recaps and there is such quality in each one. One thing I really, really love is the effort and time spent on all the time stamps. I use them to jump around as needed and wanted to say thank you and I appreciate you guys. Thanks for being my new must see channel :-)

@sharonmitchell6483 13 days ago

I agree…Tamara went in to try and clean up her mess

@mgansworth78 13 days ago

Vicki was so awkward at the Atlanta party. She didnt even TRY to have a good time or meet any of the women she just sat there pouting. And i was a Vicki fan I really wanted to see her come back to the OC but shes been so miserable and absolutely rude to other women. It is sad !

@astroa3h 13 days ago

Yay, I get so excited when I see a new episode notification. You gals are the realest.

@jennifers.7037 13 days ago

New follower here! Love your recaps! It is so evident that you are both solid humans ❤

@esco8146 13 days ago

The fact that Vicki made me feel an iota of sympathy for Emily/Jen/Shannon speaks volumes of Icktorias horrible personality 😆

@leslie3550 13 days ago

This is the first time I've watched an entire podcast!! Thank you both for being so funny and interesting!!

@Laura-ij3uq 11 days ago

Vicki has such a short fuse and has the emotional regulation of a toddler. It’s a shame at her age

@dash-x 13 days ago

41:21 Years back I remember people talking about doing another blackout protest season if they didn’t fire Vicky ‼️ People were done with her, her cruelty, racism, and boring presence. It was around the time there was a blackout season on another franchise and it scared Bravo ‼️ I mean, even mainstream media were blackout and not covering it. They cancelled Texas around this time too, and pulled OG NYC, and a lot were due to the racism that was noted and called out by viewers.

Terrestrial tv is limping along as is… I’m curious what’s going to happen. We already “been knew,” and called out Vicky’s racist ways.

I think a big part of the racism across franchises is due to mostly white, elderly, and privileged women well entrenched in their ways and running in those older money circles and not wanting to change their ways. They’ll be cool with wyte gay men, but that’s about as diverse as they’ll get sadly.

I mean, look at the friend circles with some of these large city casts anyhow. It doesn’t reflect the diversity of these cities in the regular persons lives, but the old school money people run I. VERY pale circles, and have been for generations , this just exposes these boundaries that POC still face today.