1:12:31 "The internet is going to call you many things Natalie, but coward is not going to be one of them" That hit me hard.

I think I finally figured out why a lot of people fucking hate her on twitter.  Because she admits in this video that she says a lot of transphobic things, and it never fazed me because it was always immediately obvious to me that she was talking about herself. She wasn't trying to hurt other people, she's just airing grievances about herself aloud, but some people don't see it as self-abuse, they have the same problem as Natalie; they feel the same hurt, so when they hear these things, it adds fuel to their own internal monologue and, they think she's talking about them when she's only sharing her discomfort with herself.

I'm not even trans and this is therapeutic. Processing regret is so difficult

I think she finally cracked me guys...officially.

When Natalie mentioned feeling like she was following a female "script" i had a chill go down my spine and realized that i felt the exact same...so many times.


I'd been repressing the dysphoria and telling myself that i could be very good as a man if i wanted to be, and that I'd be giving up the privilege that comes with being a cis man if I admitted that I was trans, so I'd been ignoring the feelings.

But there's no denying - I behave feminine, I can't relate much to men, all my friends are women, i walk like a woman and I talk like a woman. I look at my shoulders and hate that they are so huge. I'll look at my frame and hate my chest. I hate my beard and I hardly HAVE a beard (peach fuzz at best). I shave my body and I can't stand any body hair. I hate that I take up so much space and I want to be tiny but I'm not.

i'm a woman - it's time to stop lying to myself. i can't do this anymore.

EDIT: Hi, if you're a TERF about to comment something like, "Well not all women have to be cute and feminine, I find that implication to be offensive and stereotypical and not representative of all women"

Have you considered that I like dressing up, wearing makeup, styling my hair, being romanced, etc? Doing girly shit? Kindly take your "concern" elsewhere.

At 23 minutes when she says "Being a boy was okay, becoming a man wasn't," it really resonated with me as a "late bloomer" cis lesbian. Dating boys was fine, I genuinely cared for the men I dated. But as I approached adulthood and marriage entered the equation and became an expectation in these relationships, I was filled with existential dread I couldn't name. The prospect of having a husband, or more like being the wife of a man, was suddenly too real and I had to face the truth that I actually was fundamentally not on board with having a man as a life partner.

What I’ve realized about Natalie: She’s shy, and she’s more fragile than we tend to see her. It’s not fair that she’s expected to be just as indestructible as she appears in her videos. She doesn’t deserve that.

I had a fairly negative opinion of Contrapoints, or Natalie, for years now. I can't even be sure where it came from, possibly from her video on Jordan Peterson of whom i was a blind fanboy of at the time. Listening to this conversation changed my perspective of her so much, she's a very brave soul, really introspective and smart. I'm definitely gonna check out more of her content in the future.

When she said "you don't seem to be disgusted", it broke my heart a little. She is such a beautiful soul!

As a longtime fan of Natalie and a first-time viewer of Dr. K., I have to say I'm in awe of both his incisiveness and her willingness to engage in a very vulnerable process. Much respect to both. Turns out there's two people in this video whomst I stan.

this is my first time to see Natalie outside of her own videos and she actually seems a lot more shy and awkward than what is portrayed in her videos and I love to see it because it really humanizes her

WOAH! Dr. K AND ContraPoints in one video? Sign me up!

He keeps asking intensely personal followup questions and she just keeps getting braver and going deeper… Thank you both, this is incredibly therepeutic

Holy shit crossover

"Being a boy was ok, but being a man wasn't." Holy shit I was there. Actually a lot of what Natalie is saying really resonates

I’m transitioning and the “being a trans woman is an ok thing to be and be seen as” thing is so important and so hard to do.  It was helpful to hear Natalie talk about that.  Thanks to you both.

Natalie's right, cis people can question their gender. I questioned my own gender for about a year. I didn't feel particularly at home in myself, I didn't feel very much like I was "manly" or that I wanted to be "manly". I wondered if I was agender or non-binary, and decided to adopt they/them pronouns for about a year. Ultimately, I began feeling comfortable with (perhaps even gender euphoria at) being identified as a man and calling myself one. Now I have a healthy and self-affirming conception of masculinity for myself! And you know what, I think questioning my gender ultimately helped me be happier and more secure in it.
As Kahlil Gibran once said:
"Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is its twin brother."

People are so critical of her, it’s horrible. She’s a delightful woman and she makes incredible commentary video. Her commentaries open so many people to many different viewpoints, these days, a lot of people get up in arms when one person has multi-layered perspectives on a variety of topics. I hope more people understand that not everyone is going to have the same views, that’s the importance of intellectual empathy.

natalieeeeee <3

ive always heard awful things about contrapoints but like, she seems pretty amazing to me.

EDIT after binging her videos: She is amazing <3

SECOND EDIT I'M IN LOVE WITH HER 💘

“Being a boy was ok, being a man wasn’t”—unless I’m an egg I think cis people like me can relate to that a lot. I don’t want to be muscular, I don’t want to be covered in hair, some things just don’t exist in my even hypothetical self-image

update: am prolly a femboy

14/12/21 - she/her feels sooo good

12/9/22 - bought my first nice dress ^.^

19/9/22: actually wearing girlclothes in public now, wish me luck

5/11/22 - seeing a gender counsellor on the route to get HRT. I’m currently identifying as transfemme non-binary and my depressed outlook on my future for the first twenty years of my life is beginning to change drastically

30/11/22 - I HAVE THE HORMONES

15/2/23 - 2.5 months on HRT! Emotions on girl hormones are an absolute rollercoaster and it’s just a matter of time now before my chest gets too big to hide :) I’m getting a bit too big for the closet..

23/2/23 - hormone doses doubled, and I have the beginnings of boobs. Also swimming in femwear is incredibly liberating omfg. I don't have to show my chest!!

4/3/23 a friendly reminder that post-puberty is NOT too late to start a successful transition. I was 21 and I have a lot of height dysphoria, but it's helped looking around carefully and realising there are actually a lot of tall women out there, and they're not any less pretty for it

28/4/23 I moved out and into a queer-friendly flat. It's been a really tough change but I can girlmode every day now that I want to

24/6/23 coming up on 7 months on E. I'm wearing femme all the time, am increasingly confident about it and my parents seem to be improving. Parents may be a coin flip at first but things can definitely change

20/1/24 just over a year on HRT. My chest is small but pretty obvious now, my silhouette is different, and my hair is touching my shoulders now which makes my curls look much nicer. I still don't know what my endpoints is, but I know I feel happier. My vocal muscles are already different after a year of consciously changing the way I speak. Voice seems to be a particularly bad insecurity among transfems because it's easy to believe it can't change, but with sustained effort and the right advice it really can.