Thanks for having me on Hog ^^

We really need to have more discussions outside of our echo chambers if we want to unify around a vision of a game. Having the community snipe at each other when we could be having productive conversations is something that needs to change. We need less rage bait and more unity around a single message if we want to see big changes.

I just want to say... what a fuckin breath of FRESH AIR.

Two adults having a respectful conversation, allowing eachother to speak, be heard, UNDERSTOOD, and both sides coming away with a much better understanding of each other's perspectives.

We need more of this in the world. Thank you, both Kai and Hog, for doing this.

I think one of the biggest things driving the desire for Transmog is the fact that there are like 8 different shades of white, and every new white armor seems to have some need to be different that the other white colors.

So nice of hog to collab with smaller YouTubers like Kai. My goat is so humble 😊

My issue with Helldivers and AH is the combination of two things. A seeming entitlement to endless patience and a chronic failure of communication. The left hands are not talking with right, laughing when things catch on fire, and then leave the people in the building to burn while they say they'll be right back with the fire extinguisher

This is incredibly cool, to see Kai and Hog chatting it out.
A big win for both of ya. Let's increase the dialectic

Kai is right about us having to provide more specific feedback, like with the ticket system. HOWEVER, the fact that we as the players are the ones who have to go into the games files to find out how the overly complex systems of this game works and then have to tell the developers how to program their game is unacceptable.

First off, great convo. Nice to see a discourse between people that's respectful and productive.

46:20 I will say though, as someone who has gone to school for game design, it is not the job of the player to figure out what is wrong with, or how to improve the game. That is the job of the dev. Feedback and criticism is both a luxury, and an asset to devs, ones that should not be taken for granted.

My main armor I use, the bloodhound armor, has 2 extra grenades on the chest, yet no extra grenades in my armor passive.

He's not saying they can't tell the difference between the chaff, he's saying if all you do is complain, the importance is lost.

I play games to have fun. A level of realism adds to it. HOWEVER, when realism infringes on the fun of the game, then it needs to stop. The argument that armor might not match the passive it has is absurd and ridiculous. Players deserve to express themselves without completely arbitrary restraints.

13:50 i agree with what the guy said + the weapon customisation, its supee odd there is an entire theme for vehicles and drop pods but not a matching set for weapons as decals

Every time I catch one if these Helldiver videos I always hear new food analogies. Bacon and apples, cake and soup, what a hungry people you guys are

Hey man, thank you for the discussion with Kai!

Wow this was a really good chat! We need the helldivers podcasts to come back.

Yo this was awesome and I would love to see more conversations taking place. I sub to cry and glaze divers alike. I'm very frustrated with AH, but there is also still a very good game here even with all the problems, and even tho I take time off due to frustration, I am still diving and having fun.

The HDer YTers, I think, are all sincere in their content, and while I support people making lots of thoughtful (if emotionally charged) critique vids, I also am fine w Commisar making more friendly/have a good time videos. I think both cry and glaze divers have a roll to play, and what we should really focus our attention on is helping that poor mafaka who got doxxed with the AH challenge.

It's nuts to me that the same community that raises $275k for charity also ruins some well-meaning, surely friendly and wonderful rando's life because he dared AH to play their own game publicly. That's psycho.

Really liked seeing this.

I am always interested and for content creators' discussion and communicating between each other in a public space.
I don't know how true it is, but I do think even from a general viewer standpoint, it gives a better public perception of both when doing so in a public space and leads to more sensible and productive discussions when expressing issues/likes on specific topics (both to the creators and general communities behind them).

As always,
Keep up the great work
Hope you stay safe and have a good rest of the day/night.

This was a great talk man. I like Thicc alot but I'm also glad this stayed a 1 to 1 talk, this didn't need to turn into a podcast or a 2 v 1 or what have you.

Loved this.

arrowheads QA is like the mcdonalds ceo and the big arch

The fact that participating in MOs does absolutely nothing to benefit your progress towards warbonds. Even 50 guaranteed credits would be SOMETHING.