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The Alien and Predator Iceberg Explained

Pigpen

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Whoever wins, we lose. Except that's not true because they're fictional creatures. Unless...

Background footage:
Alien Isolation - All Cutscenes (Game Movie) - Alien: Isolation (RabidRetrospectGames)
Aliens: Colonial Marines All Cutscenes, Au... - Aliens: Colonial Marines (iampanax)
Predator Concrete Jungle All Cutscenes Wal... - Predator: Concrete Jungle (UPlayNetwork)
Aliens vs Predator All Cutscenes (All Stor... - Alien vs. Predator 2010 (Gamer's Little Playground)

More info:

https://screenrant.com/alien-5-joss-w... - article about Whedon's Alien 5

https://web.archive.org/web/200902160... - article about the Ripley Chronicles

http://vincentwardfilms.com/project/c... - blog about Vincent Ward's Alien 3

Aliens: Colonial Marines - What Happened? - What Happened? video on Aliens: Colonial Marines

The Predator (2018) - What Happened? - What Happened? video on The Predator

Alien 3 - What Happened? - What Happened? video on Alien 3

https://www.vincenzo-natali.com/preda... - art for Vincenzo Natali's Predators

''ALIEN 5'' - THE LOST SEQUEL - Supervoid Cinema's video on Neill Blomkamp's Alien 5

The Operation Aliens Conspiracy & The Probably Mostly True Story of Operatio... - videos on Operation Aliens

https://www.screengeek.net/2023/10/08... - article about Prey 2

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movie... - article about the Alien 3 hive sequence

White Hybrid Xenomorphs Origins - Terrifyi... - Marvelous Videos' on the White Hybrids

Video - Wreckage and Rage

https://www.denofgeek.com/games/cance... - article about Hadley's Hope

https://www.moddb.com/mods/templargfx... - how to fix Colonial Marines

Aliens: Colonial Marine [PS2 Beta Proto - ... - Original Colonial Marines gameplay

Aliens: Colonial Marines PS2 Unreleased La... - unreleased Colonial Marines trailer

Archie vs Predator (2015) - Comic Story Ex... - Dannymalt's video on Archie vs Predator

https://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/22405 - James Cameron on AvP and Alien 5

https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3... & https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/11/28/... & http://www.predator4-movie.com/topic/... - concept art for The Predator

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2023/07/31/... & https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2023/10/04/... & https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2023/10/04/... - info on Annihilation

https://collider.com/arnold-schwarzen... - article about Arnold and The Predator 2018

[Cancelled] Aliens: Crucible - Obsidian En... - Crucible gameplay

https://web.archive.org/web/201910100... - article about Cosmic Hard Bowl

https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3... - article about the Peter Keyes deleted scene

Twitter: 1239116458296213504 - Hadley's Hope design documents

Video & Video - Ironmouse talking about her love for Predators

Aliens: Colonial Marines PS2 Documentary - Colonial Marines documentary

Tarzan vs. Predator - Explained - Bloody B... - Marvelous Videos' video on the Tarzan crossover

Story Of Eloise - Brood Mother Of Xenomorp... - Marvelous Videos' video on Eloise

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movie... - concept art for Neill Blomkamp's Alien 5

Alien: Blackout - Full Game Walkthrough (L... - Alien Blackout longplay

Music (in order)
[SEGA Genesis Music] Alien 3 - Full Origin... - Alien 3 (Genesis)
[SEGA Genesis Music] Predator 2 - Full Ori... - Predator 2 (Genesis)
Alien vs Predator - SNES OST - AvP (SNES)
Alien 3 - SNES Full Soundtrack HD - Alien 3 (SNES)
Predator 2 (Game Gear OST) - Predator 2 (Game Gear)
Alien 3 (NES) Music / Soundtrack / エイリアン 3... - Alien 3 (NES)
Alien vs Predator - The Last of His Clan (... - AvP: The Last of His Clan (Game Boy)

#alien #predator #predatorbadlands #avp

00:00 - Intro
01:32 - Tier I: Weyland-Yutani
47:06 - Commercial Break 1
47:43 - Tier II: Colonial Marines
01:35:35 - Commercial Break 2
01:36:11 - Tier III: OWLF
2:14:48 - Commercial Break 3
2:15:25 - Tier IV: Project Stargazer
2:53:58 - Outro

20 Comments

@Pigpen_YT Creator 2 years ago (edited) Pinned

Like an idiot I accidentally call 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros in the final entry. My bad. Also there's so many links to articles and videos in the description, I ran out of room. Here's the rest of the stuff I wanted to link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMjdVhvkso8 - Alien Theory's video talking about the differences between Alien 3 and the Assembly Cut

https://web.archive.org/web/20121116021457/http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/07/22/sdcc-10-rodriguez-confirms-predators-2 - Robert Rodriquez on Predators 2

https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/7210/aliens-vs-predator-on-the-gba - gba game announcement

https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/ridley-scott-alien-artificial-intelligence-1201884993/ - Ridley Scott on Prometheus 3

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ridley-scott-on-the-martian-his-groundbreaking-1984-apple-commercial-and-prometheus-2 - Ridley Scott mentions Blomkamp's Alien script is done

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-the-predator-shane-black-steven-wilder-striegel-20180906-story.html and https://gizmodo.com/the-predator-director-shane-black-defends-hiring-a-regi-1828853155 - articles about Striegel

@itzclassified 2 years ago

Not to flex or anything but my Uncle is a Predator

@TomatoPastes 2 years ago

My 9 hour shift just started, thank you pigpen

@topcat59 2 years ago (edited)

You also forgot to mention that when Johnny and Jax are selected to fight one an the other and they have the predator skins they will reenact the you son of a bitch scene in game.🐱

@TheHaddonfieldRegistry 2 years ago

Cameron went from "AvP is going to corrupt the legacy of Alien" to "Let's do 4 more Avatars" real quick lmao

@mercaius 2 years ago

"Disney pulled out because they believed it the attraction was far too scary for children."

Are you serious? The horrifying monster lurking in the dark, drooling on you, breathing down your neck, was only a problem if it was a xenomorph?

@AluminumFusion22 2 years ago

I came back to say that you can thank Randy Pitchford for the disclaimer "not actual game footage" at the bottom of certain gameplay footage before a game releases. During Colonial Marines's development, Gearbox would showcase footage that Pitchford repeatedly claimed was in-game, but after the game was downgraded graphically at launch and it was discovered that the footage shown wasn't in the game itself, Gearbox was sued for false advertising and SEGA sued them for misuse of company funds, as the money was meant to be used exclusively for Colonial Marines, like Pigpen says.

@kapitankapital6580 2 years ago

I always enjoyed the 4Kidz spin-off: "Kid Alien vs Child Predator"

@alexanderofficial3000 2 years ago

I think it’s cool that the Predator race exists in Earth 616’s multiverse.

@greensuperdude 2 years ago

To be fair making the alien queen thick is more in line with HRs vision

@MAJR172 2 years ago

I had no idea Wildlands removed the Pred tie in.

Thus fills me with rage

@MikeVonwolkenstein 2 years ago

Just got reminded of The predator (2018) movie’s existence.

Day ruined

And entires like the last one, just adds more fuel to the fire of the train wreck that was The predator

@HiTechDreamingg 1 month ago

lol that alien isolation sequel coming out boyyyy

@TheHaddonfieldRegistry 2 years ago

One thing I do have to add: Both Ridley Scott and Alan Dean Foster have stated that the point of David's story was not to depict him creating the Xenomorph. The point of the Prequels was to show Humanity's hubris is not exlusive to humanity.
The Engineer's created the Xenomorphs, thousands of years ago. We know this is this the case, as we see the egg chamber and Spacejockey in Alien, and it's been there for centuries.
David is said to have 'perfected' an 'organism' that the Engineer's feared. That organism wasn't the Deacon, it was the Xenomorph. David's creations are not Xenomorphs, but 'Perfect' Xenomorphs, or 'True' Xenomorphs.
The entire point of that duology is that human's are looking for their creators while creating life themselves, only to find out our creator's don't care about us, they also made monsters, and we see in real time that even OUT creations can build monsters, (David building the New Xeno).
Also, the Xeno mural isn't a mural of a Xeno at all, Scott has confirmed that was a Deacon.
Scott and Foster have explained that the film was intentionally vague, as to leave the viewer in the dark on which came first, the Chicken or the Egg. We aren't meant to know where the Xenos come from, if they're explicitly made by the Engineers, or if they're David's creation. It's Scott's metaphor for the futility of searching for God, because God isn't knowable, and at the same time, he's all around us.
But of course that went over fans heads, and Scott and Foster had to come out and say "Yeah, David just reverse engineered an existing Xeno species that the Engineers built a long time ago."

@obiwanshinobi87 2 years ago

Scateboarding and breakdancing Predators???

I kind of want to see that :D

@theangrypenguin3014 2 years ago

They need to remaster AVP 2010

@XenosaurusRex666 2 years ago

Some of your points are explored more in the expanded media. Like Xenomorphs have been shown to express emotions. Warriors and drones have expressed grief when a Queen dies, a Queen was shown emotional distress when being forced to watch her young burn to death. Xenomorphs have shown signs of fear, anger and even personal revenge against certain individual enemies.
They also express enjoyment when “toying” with their prey.

Loved this video, but just thought to mention there is ALOT more explored in expanded media.

@kevthepoet 2 years ago

Alien 3 had a Newt autopsy scene? Those sick bastards.

@lanterneembers967 1 year ago

the way I've always saw it is, the Alien is canon to the Predator franchise, but the Predator isn't canon to the Alien franchise. It tidys a lot of things up when you think of it that way.