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How Speedrunners Broke Melee By Eliminating Luck

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00:00 - Intro
02:00 - How RNG Works
03:55 - All Stars Speedrun
07:35 - Peach Break The Targets
10:45 - Problems with HRC RNG
12:02 - HRC gets Solved
15:05 - Is this possible in multiplayer

20 Comments

@Abyssoft Creator 4 years ago Pinned

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@Savestate 4 years ago

Love to finally have the history of this all documented somewhere. Wonderful job putting it all together!

@Megaman.ExE7 4 years ago (edited)

It's amazing. Content like this never ceases to amaze me. I remember being 8-15 and being stuck on some games and wishing there were clear play-throughs and guides. Fast forward to 2022 and we literally have scientific breakdowns of random results in games 20-30 years old.

This is the stuff that keeps me going

@UncleLayne 4 years ago

After all these years I just noticed that the Turnip faces are Kirby faces

@JVSantovito 4 years ago

You make this complicated stuff look so easy to digest and understand. Awesome video!

@mandret1996 4 years ago

This Category is 100% broken
Savestate: hold my beer new strat found intantaniously

@silicagelenjoyers 4 years ago

always feel like changes to speedrun rules as long as they pass with vast majority of support from the people who actually run the game are fine. especially if they make stuff way more playable, cause whilst records are cool and all, this is all supposed to be fun

@DubYuhGChoppa 3 years ago

I'm so happy these incredible events in Melee are being recognized more.

@snoxeri 4 years ago

There was somebody who did cheat in a tournament by altering peach RNG numbers with a memory card which loaded a modded version of 20XX. It's a little different from what you describe here, but it is definitely doable.

@marktaylor2645 9 months ago

Three year old refresh pull, still quality content reaching back so far in the catalogue. Thanks for all the info and entertainment!

@marcelogarciadelhoyo2252 3 years ago

I believe this rng manipulated runs should always have their own "category" so that cool any% runs won't be replaced for a souless RNG manipulated boring Speedrun where you watch a guy pressing specific keys for 2 minutes so he gets the perfect run

@TaIathar 4 years ago

As long as the tool doesn't directly interact with the game, I don't see a problem with it. People have been writing down notes for various things for years and this isn't much different.

@icarooliveira7326 4 years ago

This is amazing. Every time a video drops it's like I'm back in school, half understanding what's going on but fascinated by everything :O.
Also, this thumbnail is amazing

@SlimMK64 4 years ago

Thumbnail is pretty excellent abyssoft

@somaghost 4 years ago

Great video. Judge and savestate really put in work.

@DavidWonn 4 years ago

5:40 If that number had a checksum, I predict it would be NINE. :-)

@superparadox 4 years ago

alright tomato skip got a chuckle out of me

@TheCasualSubculturist 4 years ago

No RNG stands for Random Number Gesus.

@Kosmicd12 4 years ago

My boy Judge, the legend.

@adult456zig 4 years ago

I don't speedrun smash bros games or even play at a high level, but to me it seems like the obvious solution is to consider the rng manip to be a form of set seed and then runs are categorized as seeded or unseeded.