The Porsche Worth Keeping Isn't the Fast One | Patrick Long & Jeff Zwart
Eleven After Nine Podcast
15,674 views
What makes a Porsche worth keeping for the rest of your life?
Patrick Long has raced some of the fastest and most important Porsches ever built. Jeff Zwart has spent decades racing, photographing, filming and living with them. Yet when I asked each of them to choose just one Porsche for the rest of their lives, neither chose the fastest car.
We talk about why older, slower cars can sometimes deliver more of a driving experience, whether you can modify an air-cooled Porsche until you remove what made it special, why Jeff still drives his cars through snow, and how a Porsche becomes a keeper.
We also spend plenty of time talking about Luftgekühlt!
With Luft 12 coming to Town at Trilith outside Atlanta on October 10, Patrick and Jeff take us behind the scenes of how they choose the cars, why the venue matters so much, what makes a Porsche “Luft-worthy,” and why a beat-up old 912 with a great story can sometimes be more interesting than a priceless museum piece.
And Jeff explains why, after 53 years together, his Porsche 914-6 would still be the one car he keeps.
And for anyone heading to Luftgekühlt 12 in Atlanta on October 10, let me know. After this conversation with Patrick and Jeff, I moved a few things around and I’m planning to make the trip down as well.
LUFTGEKÜHLT 12
Saturday, October 10, 2026
Town at Trilith
Fayetteville, Georgia
Tickets & Event Information:
https://luftgekuhlt.com/pages/luft-12
Luftgekühlt:
https://luftgekuhlt.com/
FOLLOW PATRICK LONG
Website:
https://patricklong.com/
Instagram:
Instagram: plmotorsport
FOLLOW JEFF ZWART
Instagram:
Instagram: zwart
FOLLOW ELEVENAFTERNINE
Website & Porsche Consulting:
https://www.elevenafternine.com/
Main YouTube Channel:
@elevenafternine
Podcast YouTube:
@elevenafterninepodcast
Instagram:
Instagram: theelevenafternine
Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/show/0fpVL61...
Contact:
11afternine@gmail.com
CHAPTERS
00:00 What Makes a Porsche Worth Keeping?
02:13 Does Driving Great Cars Change What You Value?
05:30 Why Older Porsches Feel Different
06:28 What Makes a Porsche “Luft-Worthy”?
09:02 How Luftgekühlt Chooses Its Cars
11:40 Why Luft Is More Than a Car Show
12:26 The Cars Outside Luft Can Be Just as Good
15:38 Air-Cooled vs. Water-Cooled Porsche
16:08 How Jeff Zwart Designs a Luft Venue
17:39 What You Should Look For at Luft 12
20:39 What Luft 12 Is Celebrating
21:34 Can Luft Get Too Big?
24:37 Why Patrick and Jeff Stay Approachable
25:48 Jeff Zwart's 53-Year Porsche 914-6
27:28 Can You Modify an Old Porsche Too Much?
30:32 Can a Restoration Remove a Porsche's Character?
33:57 What Makes a Porsche a Keeper?
34:26 Why Jeff Drives His Porsches in the Snow
36:37 The Problem With Saving Cars Instead of Driving Them
38:02 Does a Porsche Factory Racer Still Want to Drive Fast?
41:16 One Porsche for the Rest of Your Life
41:28 Jeff Zwart Chooses His 914-6
42:37 Patrick Long Chooses His One Porsche
44:26 Patrick's Case for Air-Cooled Porsche
46:08 Luft 12 and One Final Thought
46:45 “How Did the Car Make You Feel?”
Buying a Porsche and want a second opinion before you wire the money? One-on-one Porsche buyer consulting is available at ElevenAfterNine.com.
ElevenAfterNine is an independent enthusiast podcast and is not affiliated with, authorized by, or endorsed by Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.
20 Comments
He answered one question with "I remember driving in Europe with Porsche and we had really focused on discipline and training" etc. etc.
Then someone said "You mean when you won Le Mans?!"
: )
I think the 914-6 is the car that gets forgotten. It just checks all the boxes. The 914-6 GT or any 914 with a 911 engine modded often a 2.7 or 3.0 high fast revvvvving is just magical.
My baby: A 1987 Black Coupe with a Champagne interior. Untouched Lacquer paint. Have owned it for 22 years and have 160 K smiles.
The Porsche Worth Keeping Isn't the Fast One | Patrick Long & Jeff Zwart
Eleven After Nine Podcast
15,674 views
What makes a Porsche worth keeping for the rest of your life?
Patrick Long has raced some of the fastest and most important Porsches ever built. Jeff Zwart has spent decades racing, photographing, filming and living with them. Yet when I asked each of them to choose just one Porsche for the rest of their lives, neither chose the fastest car.
We talk about why older, slower cars can sometimes deliver more of a driving experience, whether you can modify an air-cooled Porsche until you remove what made it special, why Jeff still drives his cars through snow, and how a Porsche becomes a keeper.
We also spend plenty of time talking about Luftgekühlt!
With Luft 12 coming to Town at Trilith outside Atlanta on October 10, Patrick and Jeff take us behind the scenes of how they choose the cars, why the venue matters so much, what makes a Porsche “Luft-worthy,” and why a beat-up old 912 with a great story can sometimes be more interesting than a priceless museum piece.
And Jeff explains why, after 53 years together, his Porsche 914-6 would still be the one car he keeps.
And for anyone heading to Luftgekühlt 12 in Atlanta on October 10, let me know. After this conversation with Patrick and Jeff, I moved a few things around and I’m planning to make the trip down as well.
LUFTGEKÜHLT 12
Saturday, October 10, 2026
Town at Trilith
Fayetteville, Georgia
Tickets & Event Information:
https://luftgekuhlt.com/pages/luft-12
Luftgekühlt:
https://luftgekuhlt.com/
FOLLOW PATRICK LONG
Website:
https://patricklong.com/
Instagram:
Instagram: plmotorsport
FOLLOW JEFF ZWART
Instagram:
Instagram: zwart
FOLLOW ELEVENAFTERNINE
Website & Porsche Consulting:
https://www.elevenafternine.com/
Main YouTube Channel:
@elevenafternine
Podcast YouTube:
@elevenafterninepodcast
Instagram:
Instagram: theelevenafternine
Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/show/0fpVL61...
Contact:
11afternine@gmail.com
CHAPTERS
00:00 What Makes a Porsche Worth Keeping?
02:13 Does Driving Great Cars Change What You Value?
05:30 Why Older Porsches Feel Different
06:28 What Makes a Porsche “Luft-Worthy”?
09:02 How Luftgekühlt Chooses Its Cars
11:40 Why Luft Is More Than a Car Show
12:26 The Cars Outside Luft Can Be Just as Good
15:38 Air-Cooled vs. Water-Cooled Porsche
16:08 How Jeff Zwart Designs a Luft Venue
17:39 What You Should Look For at Luft 12
20:39 What Luft 12 Is Celebrating
21:34 Can Luft Get Too Big?
24:37 Why Patrick and Jeff Stay Approachable
25:48 Jeff Zwart's 53-Year Porsche 914-6
27:28 Can You Modify an Old Porsche Too Much?
30:32 Can a Restoration Remove a Porsche's Character?
33:57 What Makes a Porsche a Keeper?
34:26 Why Jeff Drives His Porsches in the Snow
36:37 The Problem With Saving Cars Instead of Driving Them
38:02 Does a Porsche Factory Racer Still Want to Drive Fast?
41:16 One Porsche for the Rest of Your Life
41:28 Jeff Zwart Chooses His 914-6
42:37 Patrick Long Chooses His One Porsche
44:26 Patrick's Case for Air-Cooled Porsche
46:08 Luft 12 and One Final Thought
46:45 “How Did the Car Make You Feel?”
Buying a Porsche and want a second opinion before you wire the money? One-on-one Porsche buyer consulting is available at ElevenAfterNine.com.
ElevenAfterNine is an independent enthusiast podcast and is not affiliated with, authorized by, or endorsed by Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.