I don’t know how you come up with this ideas, you are such a genius for bringing this subjects up, good video man, I will always look forward to watch your content. I would like your channel to have more recognition, though, but you’ll get there, You deserve it! :)

At the very least, the lack of hub world in Odyssey can be excused by the fact it's supposed to be an odyssey.  You're travelling around the world.  Generally people don't travel around the world by leaving the US and going to France then returning to the US to go to Spain then returning to the US to go to Germany.

I personally love the planet thing from Galaxy 2. Since the game is very linear, the limited hub world just felt more natural to me. Also I always loved the atmosphere- the fantastic music and colorful backgrounds give it such a happy vibe.

IMO every level in Odyssey kind of feels like a hub world. Odyssey's Kingdom have far more in common with previous hub worlds than they do with the main levels

One thing that really confused me when Odyssey came out was how I heard people criticizing Galaxy 2 for nerfing the hub world so much and basically scrapping the idea (fair enough), but then heard those people praising Odyssey for doing the EXACT SAME THING on STEROIDS, calling the hub world "old and outdated" and stuff. Okay, so it's old and outdated when Odyssey comes out and "it's a good thing" Odyssey got rid of it, but with Galaxy 2 it's bad that it didn't really have one? Huh?

My favorite Hub Worlds definitely have to be Peach's Castle & Delfino Plaza, exploring them and finding all the secrets is really fun to me

I like the analysis on how they become less prevalent in the newer titles. Great catch.

Cool idea for a video! Super underrated channel right here!

Being able to see level locations at Sunshine’s plaza REALLY helps that immersion. Still remember seeing them when I was younger and knowing that I could play there soon, Pianta Park especially

Galaxy 1 has an amazing hub world, it's designed to fit it's themes, and honestly I love it way more than any other mario game hub world

Great analysis. I do miss the mystery and feeling of joy upon discovery that was in the hub world of 64. Still remember the feeling I had as a kid when I found a whole new world after hitting a ghost that was suspiciously larger than the rest. Such a sense of wonder.

Keep up the great work! :D

I think it might be because they see hub world is not needed, because they're not actaul levels, so they've been removing them or making them smaller to save time. Because they don't make a big difference in gameplay in a lot of newer mario games like oddysey.

Odyssey definitely has a hub world; most kingdoms are hub worlds anyway. Finding checkpoints is your exploration of them, and the bonus areas are like the actual levels. The moons in the overworld are just castle secret stars.

Honestly, I don’t see “lack of hub worlds” to be necessarily a bad thing

Speaking of world map hub worlds and different kingdoms/biomes, I find it absolutely amazing how nothing have beat SMB3 yet when it comes to variation, immersion and consistency. And this was 36 years ago. When I think about the Mario universe as a whole I think about the kingdoms from that game and the TV series about them. I want to give props to Yoshi's Island as well for having fantastic biomes. It just lacked the exploration aspect of SMB3.

My dream Mario game is open world but split into different lands like SMB3. With a intricate pipe and underground traversal systems between lands. If I rememeber correctly they even used this in the show, like going through tunnels to reach the dark land or teleport airships through pipes in the air. Cool stuff!

This is part of the reason why I miss the N64 Rareware games so much! As a kid, I loved exploring  Donkey Kong's Island or seeing just how connected all the levels were in Gruntilda's Lair for Banjo Kazooie. I just bought the second Yooka-Laylee game so I'm hoping the hub world captures that magic again! This is an amazing video on the subject!!

Sidenote on Odyssey’s theme: It’s a race around the globe to prevent the Wedding From Bowser’s Kingdom (heh), so having a hub world doesn’t really fit the narrative. 🤷🏻‍♂️

THANK YOU for bringing this up!! I’ve had this complaint ever since the original Galaxy came out (which I still love, by the way). To me, the hub world is what makes Mario games cohesive and more than just a collection of random levels (which is one of my few complaints about Odyssey). Plus, I liked seeing the change over time and opening of new areas in Peach’s castle and Delfino plaza. It really gave me a sense of progression and growth other than “here’s how many moons you’ve collected.”

I REALLY hope they bring back a killer hub world in the next Mario game! Great video, as always!!

I love the hub worlds. I played 64 and galaxy a lot as a kid and those hub worlds feel like real places to me. But I never played sunshine as a child. I played it a little bit on 3D All stars but I couldn’t get into it. Delfino plaza was confusing to me.

I think as an adult i have less free time so I don’t spend enough (or any) time goofing off in the hub worlds anymore. I don’t find secrets and fall in love with the place like I did as a child.

I wonder if kids attention has anything to do with streamlining hub worlds. 64, sunshine, and even galaxy 1 were released at a time when children had less things to spend their time on. You had game console, go outside, or play physical games with friends which cant always be done. Now game consoles compete for attention with computers, phones, the internet, etc..

i feel like sunshine has always been a hub world in almost every level except the pipe ones