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Heavy Rain vs Disco Elysium - Good & Bad Cop Games

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In dark times, should the stars go out?
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0:00 - Intro
4:14 - Interactivity
37:53 - Narrative (SPOILERS)
47:14 - Politics (STILL SPOILERS)
1:00:22 - Conclusion
1:06:56 - Last of Us???
1:08:21 - Patreon Thank You

Special Thanks to

▶ ‪@MilesJohn‬
He did the 'Sorry Jimmy' animation.

▶‪@HIROTONFA‬
Made the comic for the culprit, which I turned into a motion graphic.

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CIV 6 - Roosevelt Theme - Civ 6 USA T Roosevelt Theme music Full
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Deadly Premonition - Whistle Theme - Deadly Premonition (Whistle Theme)

Disco Elysium - Red Rock Riviera (Day 1) - Red Rock Riviera(Day) 1 - Disco Elysium OST
Disco Elysium - Dice Maker - Dicemaker - Disco Elysium OST
Undertale - Start Menu - Video
Undertale - Ghost Fight - Video
Disco Elysium - Cryptozoologists - Video

YIIK - Alex Eagelston - YIIK (OST) - Alex Eagleston
Disco Elysium - Hardcore Dance - Hardcore Dance - Disco Elysium OST
YIIK - Frankton Theme - YIIK (OST) - Frankton Theme
Disco Elysium - Detective Arriving on the Scene - Video
Disco Elysium - Precinct 41 Major Crime Unit - Video

LISA: The Painful - Beehive - LISA: The Painful OST - Beehive
LISA: The Painful - All Hail the Fishmen - LISA: The Painful OST - All Hail The Fishmen
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Disgaea: Hour of Darkness - Lord Laharl’s Hymn Instrumental - Disgaea: Hour of Darkness - Lord Laharl's ...
LISA: The Joyful - Buddy’s Theme - LISA: The Joyful OST - Buddy's Theme

Omori - A Home of Flowers (Tulip) - OMORI OST - 013 A Home For Flowers (Tulip)
Disco Elysium - Fritte Theme - Disco Elysium OST - Frittte Theme
Disco Elysium - Off We Go into the Wild Pale Yonder - Video
Disco Elysium - Rain - Rain - Disco Elysium OST
Disco Elysium - ______ Reveal
Persona 4 Golden - Revelations Mitsuo - Persona 4 Golden OST- Shin Mitsuo Tensei/R...

Disco Elysium - Main Menu - Main Menu - Disco Elysium OST
Undertale - Alphys’ Theme - Video
Disco Elysium - Off We Go into the Wild Pale Yonder - Video
Deadly Premonition - Whistle Theme - Deadly Premonition (Whistle Theme)

YIIK - Frankton Theme - YIIK (OST) - Frankton Theme
Disco Elysium - Hardcore Dance - Hardcore Dance - Disco Elysium OST

20 Comments

@fluffywolfo3663 3 years ago

One thing I find so interesting about Disco Elysium is that... it's not a game about creating a God among men, it's a game about barely being in control of yourself

@AmericanBrit9834 3 years ago

In Heavy Rain, no one has personality. In Disco Elysium, EVERYONE has personality. Even your personality has personality. Electrochemistry is so fun to listen to.

@GodKingReiss 3 years ago

David Cage: “Game overs are a failure of the game designer.”
Disco Elysium: “You fail to grab your necktie from the ceiling fan and die of a heart attack within minutes of waking up.”

@genericname2747 3 years ago

Calling Kim a slur says more about the effects of racism than the entirety of Detroit Become Human.

@exoplaneeet9499 3 years ago

i will never forget the moment in disco elysium when, while trying to convince to punks to give my character their cool jackets i failed a check, and instead of saying anything convincing the character began to have a tantrum worthy of a seven-year-old, foot stomping and whining included. the punks felt so awkward one gave my character his jacket out of pity! that whole exchange started one hell of a laugh out of me! god i love that game

@yari4046 3 years ago

comparing disco elysium to heavy rain feels like comparing the iliad to 4chan greentext stories

@NaramSinofAkkad790 3 years ago

Worst moment in my Disco Elysium playthrough was trying to get Kim to dance and failing and instead calling him a slur and he leaves. I was devastated.

@spenceduggs 3 years ago (edited)

I will always remember Disco as the game containing a chair so uncomfortable, it might actually kill you

@user-jq1mg2mz7o 3 years ago

this competition is like the hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

@SAUglaz 3 years ago

When I first played Disco Elysium I thought that the title was just a joke about a Latin phrase beloved by law and med students - Disco Inferno, which means "I learn through suffering". But in one interview Kurvitz actually explained that Elysium is the name of the world that he and his friends created in the process of playing homebrew RPGs. And so the title means "I learn Elysium" and it was always meant to be an introduction followed by more works in that setting(although, the actual first published work in it is Sacred and Terrible Air, which was being translated, but now is in legal Limbo).

Also, Clancy Brown's cold evisceration of David Cage is something I really needed to hear.

@najwan3672 3 years ago

i dont know why but david cage mentioning "homosexuality" next to "politics" when referring to "real world themes" is weirdly amusing to me

@bumberquest3031 3 years ago (edited)

David Cage seeing himself as the first ever person to make a compelling narrative in a video game really just goes to show how far up his ass his head is. The video game medium has been around for ages, much longer than he has been in it. He doesn't see how the medium can elevate his stories, only how his stories can elevate the medium itself, which is just incredibly pretentious and kinda just disrespectful.

@kenzood5290 3 years ago

The juxtaposition of ‘I wish games would do this, games don’t do this and now I’m making games do this’ and ‘I have never played a lot of games, I’m doing my own thing with not many influences’ is insane to me.

Games have portrayed politics, homosexuality, death, grief- all those things for years. He doesn’t know it because he hasn’t bothered to play them.

@hagnekore 3 years ago

disco elysium ruined my life im now desperately in love with kim kitsuragi

@ElliannaRuth 2 years ago

The “watching a person die vs watching pixels die” really reads to me like he has never read a good book. There are books I’ve read that are from hundreds of years ago that have deaths that have made me SOB because they’re still so well done and poignant. Those aren’t visual at all but they’re the baseline for the way contemporary entertainment works still for a reason

@diegobrandomtg 3 years ago

Such a shame Quantic Dream is still around while the creators of disco elysium were all forced out of the studio. No justice in this world…

@brunnokamei9623 3 years ago

I feel more pity for Kirby villains than for most Quantic Dream's characters.

@talkinghorse12 3 years ago

9:20 I find it hilarious that the car that both killed Jason and put Ethan into a coma only lightly tapped them.

@spanishnameisjesus 3 years ago

Joyce is my favorite character by far. Talking with her is a genuine joy, and I can't help but like her.

And I hate that I like her.

Because she DOES represent the worst of the worst, and she actively helps them get away with it all, yet... I can't truly blame her. She's just one person, and when faced with a massive conglomerate like Wild Pines, the urge to just nod and smile and keep your head down is very rational. I don't hate Joyce - hell, I don't even hate her choices, per se. I hate the world for being the way it is. And not in a nihilistic way, it's just... a damn shame.

Disco is such an incredible work of art.

@MccFallen 3 years ago

A moment in Disco Elysium that will always be ingrained in my mind is the following,

I was doing a high empathy run for my first run, I was talking to the bookkeeper’s daughter and I had gotten the super detective cop from her and she gave me dick Mullens hat, the scene for me was very wholesome and it did fill me with joy, but then I head for 20 capeside apartments… and I had to break the news that her husband was dead, it was terrible, i literally broke down. The the narrative and world is so strong that I unintentionally made myself go on an emotional roller coaster.

I love DE.