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Did MSR Copy Soto? | MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe vs Soto Windmaster

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What backpacking canister stove is the best backpacking stove? I'd argue in many ways that these two stoves are the front runners among a select few others like the Soto Amicus and BRS 2000 in the backpacking world.
The MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe is a brand new stove from MSR that is like the now adult and matured Pocket Rocket 2. When I first heard about this stove and it's features, I quickly compared it to the Soto Outdoors Windmaster. With a concave/cone shaped burner, a micro regulator valve and internal piezo igniter, these two stoves share a lot in common. Which is the better backpacking stove though?

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Check out the comparison of these stoves from Spiguyver Backpacking: MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe vs Soto Windmaster
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20 Comments

@BackcountryExposure Creator 7 years ago Pinned

Which stove would you choose and why? The Soto Windmaster or the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe? Very similar stoves...

@flyingtigers5954 6 years ago

i chose the soto windmaster bc is just a work of art.

@specialhorse8062 6 years ago

I have Soto Windmaster 4 flex. The 4 flex being loose is a concern. The stove is also taller than most. Something you missed in the review is how the 4 flex (and 3 flex) hugs the burner and extends above it. This acts as a wind break (4 being better than 3 (have both)) The 4 flex is superior to 3 when using wide pots and frying pan. The MSR igniter has another moving part to fail. I no longer carry a wind screen and suspect MSR version would enable same. The Soto is quiet. The regulator valves have a different feel than needle valves. Suggest you delve further into why's of regulator valves. Maybe talk about how heat transfer to canister effects stove height. I think the Soto is better and will continue to use it.

@azclaimjumper 6 years ago (edited)

When I visited REI's website & looked at the comparative EFFICIENCY specs that is what helped me decide.

The Soto takes 90 MINUTES to completely use up an 8 oz canister of fuel when the fuel flow valve is wide open

The MSR takes only 60 MINUTES to completely use up an 8 oz canister of fuel when the fuel flow valve is wide open. As I said, these comparative times are taken from REI's website.

I'll be buying the Soto from REI in late May during their Anniversary Sale when I can buy it at a 30% discounted price. I've vacillated between Soto & MSR. I like the packability of the MSR. However, I much prefer the EFFICIENCY of the Soto.

@chrisladouceur4093 6 years ago

I’ve got the deluxe and only taken it on 1 trip so far but it performed great. Super fast boil times, sturdy, good control, easy to pack. I only had light winds so can’t talk about wind resistance but seems like it would be solid

@ChrisOUTEC 5 years ago

Glad to be a fellow Soto Windmaster owner! Thank you

@mhammann57 7 years ago

Does the ignition wire disconnect by design when unscrewing the burner head? It still worked but I wonder if that might be a problem down the road.

@MrBluoct 7 years ago (edited)

Yes it is a copy 👎

My wind master has the four pot support option with all four supports having a collapsible section

Fantastic stove

Super quiet

Fast boils

How about decibels assigned while at full burn for each

W M is fairly quiet

And the pot supports really grip bottom of a pot

Wind master for the win🤙

@normarinker3245 7 years ago

Thanks! I've been looking at the Soto. Great video!!

@thenaturemanadventures 7 years ago

Looks like it comes down to brand choice. They both perform well under the conditions you tested them and price point is the same. Curious how the MSR performs in the back country for you. 😃🍅

@LegionTacticoolCutlery 7 years ago (edited)

I like the stove that works.... so either one will do fine with the tests you conducted... i like the way the MSR breaks down rather then the Soto and the two pot holders it comes with.