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Experimenting with Crazy Snowboard Stance Angles

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Your snowboard stance angles can completely change how your board feels. In this video, I experiment with some extreme stance angles to see how they affect my turns, balance, control and overall riding.

I’ll compare the different setups on snow and show what changes as the bindings get pushed into unusual positions. It’s a fun way to see just how important your snowboard stance is and help you think about what angles might work best for your riding.

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20 Comments

@SnowboardProCamp Creator 2 years ago (edited) Pinned

@r_lonef 2 years ago

Try +45 on the back and -45 on the front.

@aquilesmasdmd 2 years ago

I saw you stuff the screwdriver in your pocket. Please tell me you did not go down the hill like that. A Phillips driver to the liver is kinda game over.

@quasimongo410 8 months ago

the fact that he does this with a clew bindung is hilarious

@jorssyy 2 years ago

I used to feel very unstable in duckstance untill i switched to posi posi, never felt better, MUCH more control and really really happy.

@randifolwell 2 years ago

Believe it or not I learned from the famous Kevin Delaney. He taught us to go positive,positive. This help in learning to first carve. Today I ride a positive 30 on the front and 15 on the rear. What ever will work for ya!

@emilybrooks9471 2 years ago

I started riding duck, but have been getting gradually more positive over the years. I now ride +23 +18 and find it's just fun for carving and steeps. This has inspired me to experiment some more! I grew up surfing rather than snowboarding, where a front-on (aka positive) stance is preferred to open up the shoulders for turns and improve flow, so find the positive angles give a more surfy feel to snowboarding too, which I enjoy!

@shredandenjoy7311 2 years ago (edited)

+21 +6 is about where I ride. Really good directional control but not too excessive! Only thing I'll add is if you ride centered, you'll want to scoot back just a bit since you've now rotated both balls of your foot just a bit over center.

Would be interesting to combine this all with an asym board built around positive foot angles. Adjust where the sidecut starts on each board to essentially center you.

Oh and forward lean!

@dotta4763 2 years ago

Genuinely, what’s crazy about +21 +0 ? That’s a standard free ride

@ristokoskinen137 2 years ago

The problem with very high positive angles like the 45/45 you tried is that alignment of the knees gets mechanically bad. If you think of the knees as hinges the are, the "hing pins" are on very different line on the front and the back. This is why you can feel locked in place and not be able to move correctly.
I run +59/+50 on my alpine snowboard. The hardboot bindings have toe-lift on the front and heel-lift on the back foot which corrects the alignment of the knees.

@7b808dave 2 years ago

More of this! We alpine carve in hard boots at 55 angles. When I’m not soft booting. Thanks for the analysis 🤙

@florianrahe6539 2 years ago

Like other comments: In the 90s posi posi was usual. After some iterations I rode my alpine/race board with +60/+45. But my main focus was carving. 😊

@jae7783 2 years ago

In Asia, lots of riders love posi posi position with really stiff deck. It looks like alpine position but with a regular board. They do crazy tricks and focus on true deep carve. The way you need to ride with more than 40 angles is different. You need to use angulation more than upper body rotation. Japanese and Koreans are big fan of the position.

@georgeg1305 2 years ago

I've been riding with angles +30 +12 (regular) for many years. I rode an alpine board with more angles and when I realized that an alpine board does not provide as many opportunities as a regular one, I started using regular boards with these angles, since I mostly do carving anyway. The riding technique is different, but the speed control is no less if you know the technique. It's fun, but not suitable for a park.

@Bad_Riders 2 years ago

Im starting to think kevin is listening in on my conversations. I was literally talking with some shop guys about this on Thursday. Apparently its good for locking edges in and getting power to the board.

@TheCwazyduck 2 years ago

Your +21 0 is my standard powder stance, groomers are normally +27 +6, high speed groomers are +30 +12. I haven’t got to the crazy downhill race angles in the +45 +45 range. Your reaction to each change is very familiar to my experience with each stance adjustment.

@goodmorning3237 1 year ago

i love this plus forward angle of +45 and +18. The riding style looks much more elegant.

@CascadeRiderSFD 2 years ago

Pro tip for positive stance angle riding. Keep the front and back angles 9-12 degrees different for best carving positioning. I used to ride 36/24 back in the 90s but over the decades have gone more and more neutral. Now I’m at 21/12. When I started snowboarding I came from skiing so I use the cross under carving technique which is why duck stance just doesn’t feel great for me.

@marksanchez0918 2 years ago

my directional stance is +18 +12. i felt great once i got used to riding it. I think of it more as a long boarding versus 'park' duck stance. Its an old school stance thats making its comeback.