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Self-Supply, Collapsed Source of Narcissistic Supply

Prof. Sam Vaknin

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Narcissist uses narcissistic supply to regulate his internal environment and seek equilibrium among the communicating vessels of his psychodynamic needs and processes.

Lidija Rangelovska’s Collapsed Source of Narcissistic Supply (CSNS)

Collapsed Pathological Narcissistic Space

Collapsed primary Narcissistic Supply

Auto or self-supply

Collapsed Source of Narcissistic Supply – narcissist seeks more Primary Narcissistic Supply and Auto- or self-supply

Collapsed Primary Narcissistic Supply – offset by more Secondary Narcissistic Supply and Auto- or self-supply

Collapsed Pathological Narcissistic Space – balanced by more Primary Narcissistic Supply

Auto- or self-supply is a regulator tied to schizoid states and involves paranoid/persecutory ideation and delusions

Anchoring

One therapeutic technique would be “anchoring”: re-orienting the narcissist towards self-supply. Rather than resort to fickle and ephemeral external sources of narcissistic supply, the narcissist is taught and encouraged to resort to himself for same: to look forward with excited anticipation to the structured pursuit of hobbies, vocation, traits, skills, and reward-eliciting behaviors. This approach leverages the narcissist’s grandiose solipsism and fantasy of omnipotence to render him emotionally self-sufficient.

The narcissist then resorts to self-delusion. Unable to completely ignore contrarian opinion and data - he transmutes them. Unable to face the dismal failure that he is, the narcissist partially withdraws from reality. To soothe and salve the pain of disillusionment, he administers to his aching soul a mixture of lies, distortions, half-truths and outlandish interpretations of events around him. These solutions can be classified thus:

The Delusional Narrative Solution
The Antisocial Solution
The Paranoid Schizoid Solution
The Paranoid Aggressive (Explosive) Solution
The Masochistic Avoidant Solution

How does the narcissist react when he fails to obtain enough Narcissistic Supply?

Very much as a drug addict would react to the absence of his particular drug. The dwindling or absence of supply is a trauma and the narcissist experiences post-traumatic stress.

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0:00 Channel updates and feedback
1:50 Courage vs. recklessness
3:26 Introduction to book excerpts
5:00 The gender role discussion
7:11 Victimhood as an identity
9:48 The concept of supply collapse
14:30 Primary vs. secondary supply
17:00 Managing supply deficiency
21:06 The role of auto-supply
23:32 Internalizing external objects
27:24 Delusions as a coping strategy
30:29 Delusional narrative solutions
31:58 The anti-social solution
34:45 Paranoid schizoid solutions
38:02 Paranoid explosive solutions
39:36 Masochistic avoidant solutions
44:14 Depression and withdrawal
50:39 Paranoia, conspiracy, and trauma
55:26 Magical thinking and conclusion

20 Comments

@stephenstreeter5279 5 months ago

Thank you for your hard work and thank you for freely sharing your knowledge , you are making a positive difference in this world , you are appreciated thank you sir

@monicawild21 5 years ago

Only recently have I come across your channel. I’m astonished at your ability to express yourself as eloquently as you do with such absolute honesty and abandon. I use the term abandon in the context of you show no regard for the visible and invisible expectations of societies norms. This is refreshing and confirms many of my own suspicions on a range of topics you discuss, dissect and leave your audience to digest.

@debwp713 5 years ago

Thank you Sam, read your book (over and over) Narcissistic revised, 2013 and watch videos. Wealth of information. Healing, year 4. After 16yrs of marriage. No contact. Heart breaking experience, he filtered into every aspect of my life, money, friends, finance, family and my soul.
Feels like I’m coming back from a living hell. So incredibly grateful!

You need a podcast too! Please get your message out. So many women and men waste their money on therapist that have no idea how to treat them..(causes more hurt and confusion) after being abused by a person with this heartbreaking disorder.

@mostthegames3723 5 years ago

Absolutely! Compulsion is exactly how I viewed the reason for his behaviours.

@avisjohnson35 3 years ago

When I dated my high level narcissist the day I'm madam what I've known him for years but when we started dating he said I have the balls of kingkong and I thought to myself what does that mean but he soon showed me peace and blessings love and respect

@heathercampbell6893 5 years ago

Amazing insights into more facets of the nacissist. I recognize different behaviours in my unfavourite ex narcissist from the omnipotent to the self destructive pitiable suicidal cripple.

@miadeval5669 5 years ago

When the narcissist withdraws , he actually wants to be alone or wants to receive attention? That's sooooo frustrating!

@jerilee-carter1068 5 years ago

Auto supply Sounds like the narcissist turns to his multi personalities.

@theREALsaulGROSVENOR 5 years ago

Thankyou for sharing your knowledge and insights. I would love to hear more about the connection and differences between Narcissism and Dissociative identity disorder. I sometimes wonder if the mechanism of dissociative splitting from early childhood trauma and the emergence of alter self states and fragments.....can this explain narcissism and even other personality disorders? I read in your book or heard in one of your videos....you made some interesting points about that. I always get excited to be able to see the bigger picture behind these things. Like the concept of CPTSD as being a unifying factor that explains how childhood trauma can result in the various personality disorders. So I naturally wonder....does the mechanism of dissociation....could it at least theoretically explain the exact mechanism of how different alter states/ self states/ fragments could explain the different symptomatology of various personality disorders. Id love to learn more about this or hear of others research into this....and your own ideas? Am i being to simplistic/overgeneralising?

@luisalau2657 5 years ago

Prof,
I am straight forward like when I speak to people. I am a teacher and trainer.
I see people who don't like to hear the way we deliver calls it hate speech. Are we close to be called narcissistic?
But I know I a victim of narcissistic husband and I know I am more a codependent in relationships, family and work.

@rosaq409 4 years ago

The idea of communicating vessels comes to me about envy.
If all are one, if there ist not separation ..when the other persona have something more than the narcissist is because he is "taken "from him, stealing, only despossesing the other ,can the narcissist fullfit himself.
Sorry for my english and thanks for make us think

@klz9500 4 years ago

Do you have something that specifically focuses on the psyche of the Narcissistic Supply secondary source? I would like to understand more deeply about what causes a person to spend decades feeding a narcissist.

@simoneenomis3357 5 years ago

I want to thank you for everything I, just one of many, many others, have learned and are learning through your amazing wisdom about npd, and your fabulous way of conveying this!! You angle it in ways that give us access to see and understand how comlex and comprehensive this is. I have a question I hope you have the opportunity to answer... Does it happen that npd at its absolutte worst can be misdiagnosed with paranoid psykosis?

@LuckyorWhat13 5 years ago

Sam,
Is a collapsed narcissist close to nothingness than a narcissist high on supply? and if he is close to nothingness then what are the reasons that makes him turn on his narcissism again and again?
I request you to please make a video on this topic!

@marendwittbrodt8701 5 years ago

Excuse me for asking this: Before narcissists do all that to others and themselves wouldn't they rather prefer to secure a new female intimate source of supply in order to concert his energy onto someone else and on top of that gaine actual attention again?

@S_othyb5l 5 years ago

I have two questions if you may
1- Can you elaborate more on the “wrong turn” the narcissist took on his way to nothingness.
2- is the narcissist is linguistically superior in a sense that they communicate clearly and persuasively most of the time?

@vickimartens8960 5 years ago

Can the extremely competent, almost invincible avatars in an RPG be delusional Supply? He had three of them, even though he was only allowed one.

@eduardonavarro5924 5 years ago

Is there any study with narcissism and weed ?

@Xxxxxxxxxx883 5 years ago (edited)

Is it possible for a narcissist to not seek fame due to enjoying being a big fish in a small pond and dread becoming a small fish in a big pond (of fame)? You say they enjoy all types of attention and comments no matter how they are seen as, as long as they are noticed, but the narcissist I know is extremely picky about their feedback they only tolerate reactions (both negative or positive attention) that confirms their very specific idea of who they believe they are, and get enraged at other opinions when they feel it doesn’t match how they see themself as. They will freak out until they can “fix” it and match everyone’s perception of them to their desired image again. They focus almost completely on “animate supply”, and “lots of likes” doesn’t seek to interest them as much as this smaller interpersonal web they are the ruler of. They seem disinterested by how fame gives you a complete lack of control over your image. Many famous you tubers who are not even narcissists have gone crazy feeling their sense of self was so invalidated by all the fake news and misunderstanding and criticism and rumor, that no matter how they tried to correct it, they could not possibly do image control and fell into deep depression. Yet when you think of narcissist you think of someone obsessed with massive fame. Makes me curious.