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"Self-Produced" Doesn't Mean "Good Song": Stray Kids Dilemma

Asian Entertainment and Culture

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0:01 INTRO
2:50 What happened?
3:47 KOMCA does not rank “bangers.”
5:18 He has not written a hit song and he is ashamed of himself
7:24 False humility?
8:34 Whey did he ask STAYS to sit on this one?
10:49 Self-produced never meant "good"
12:54 What is "good music?"

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Bang Chan has reached a massive milestone with his 244th KOMCA credit, cementing his legacy as a top songwriter in K-pop history.

We analyze how the Stray Kids leader surpassed Ravi’s previous record to become the most credited 4th generation idol. This video breaks down his current standing, his proximity to BTS RM’s all-time record, and what his prolific output means for the group's massive Billboard 200 success. We also examine the industry standards for self-produced songs and why his consistent track record matters for the future of K-pop production.

Beyond the numbers, we look at the broader implications of these songwriting milestones for idol credibility. Bang Chan continues to prove that his influence extends far beyond the stage, shaping the sound of his generation.

Subscribe for weekly K-pop analysis breakdowns, and let me know in the comments if you think any other 4th gen idol will challenge his record anytime soon.

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20 Comments

@tracessplace 3 weeks ago

a Good song and a POPULAR song are really two different things.. There are a LOT of shit songs that are popular. Some of the most popular songs are really bad songs. Just because a song appeals to the lowest common denominator doesn't make it a good song.

@oocooocoo 3 weeks ago

The thing is
HIT SONG ≠ GOOD SONG , WELL-PRODUCED, WELL-WRITTEN WELL-COMPOSED

@IsmelinaCafuir 3 weeks ago

The fan wars are so pointless. Fans choosing to misunderstand Bang Chan are so problematic.

@Daydreamer5391 3 weeks ago (edited)

It's good he has high expectations for himself. That's the mark of an artist who cares about the art more than the praise. His fans should respect him and his wishes more.

@SeptemberMourn 3 weeks ago

I appreciate that Chan is humble. The measure of a true artist is their desire to evolve and grow as an artist. He has accomplished a lot for his age and he should be proud 💜💜

@prmtv 3 weeks ago (edited)

The thing is.. Bang Chan could make a song that breaks EVERY record known to mankind... and he would still say it wasn’t a hit.

He replied to a fan on FANS who told him we were proud of him and its ok for him to be proud of his accomplishments and he said he was just wanting to be humble about it.

@tuulonyoutube2226 3 weeks ago

Channie, you wrote the songs that I listen to everyday.

@Duckymcwaddles 3 weeks ago

Bang Chan always writes in both Korean and English on bubble. I don't think he wants to get mistranslated.

@ninablack2516 3 weeks ago

Well said and explained . I am a stay who also loves BTS, Seventeen, Enhyphen, TXT Ateez just to name a few....I love them all and don't care about numbers or fan wars. I appreciate what each group adds to the tapestry of Kpop ❤❤

@Emilia_Rose. 3 weeks ago

I honestly think that SKZ has a huge quantity of high quality songs. Just because they aren't popular hits with everyone doesn't make them lesser quality or less meaningful. The majority of songs that are major hits these days are just catchy without much meaning. I think the fact that SKZ does a lot of experimental music is kind of a given that it won't be the most popular because it's not what people are used to hearing.

@silly_willy13-x5b 3 weeks ago

Doesn't Han, Bangchan and Changbin write most of their music? From writing to production? I have checked out a few and they don't have tons of writers or producers involved, that is itself a pretty big achievement. I was very impressed. Their music is not my type definitely, but I like a few of them. It's always good to see artists being passionate about music. I hope he isn't harsh on himself.

@icedpeachX_0T8 3 weeks ago

Okay, well, I see there are a lot of people here claiming that Chan doesn’t make meaningful songs and stuff like that, which is completely false. I’m guessing some of you have only heard their more recent title tracks, and the latest song you know might be God’s Menu 💀. So I’d like to point out that Chan has worked on SO many songs with deep meanings. He’s also an amazing producer who is incredibly passionate about what he does.

I’m only going to name a few because I know some of you probably don’t care or will still find something to complain about anyway 😭: Voices, Side Effects, 3rd Eye, Hero’s Soup, Chronosaurus, Hellevator, MIROH, 19, Insomnia, Grow Up, M.I.A., Silent Cry, Lonely St., Youtiful, Behind The Light, For You, I Am YOU, Sunshine, Levanter, TMT, Ex, Phobia, Goodbye, Streetlight, Slump, Scars, Sorry, I Love You, Gone Away, and Waiting For Us.

SO TELL ME AGAIN HOW THEY HAVE “NO MEANINGFUL SONGS”? 😭 I guess anxiety, pressure, loneliness, insecurity, uncertainty, and emotional exhaustion aren’t deep topics to some of you. Because those are just some of the themes explored throughout the songs I mentioned.

@dmwilson3606 3 weeks ago

He didn't say he didn't make good songs. He said his focus needs to be only on making good songs, not on quantity, and that, in that context, it doesn't matter how many song credits he has. He cares about quality. It also speaks to he is never satisfied and will always try to improve and grow. Why do people insist on reading that in any other way? They are just trying to use it to hate or are misunderstanding him.

@opqjf 3 weeks ago

Honestly being a hit song doesn't guarantee it is of quality,I know so many songs that are superior quality but didn't get the clout they deserved. Underrated gem. So many of skz b sides are in that list.

@kdcm6690 3 weeks ago (edited)

If you listen to the lyrics of BTS' Mic Drop, you get the difference with Stray Kids in terms of how they think, and their whole attitude. There is a place for humility but what BTS does better than everybody else is own their success and talent. They're so much more unapologetically confident than every other group, and Mic Drop was 8 years ago!

@RazanWaheed-sq6gp 3 weeks ago

Having a hit is a good thing, but having high-quality music is way more important. These days, momentary success often depends on trends driven by TikTok and Instagram Reels, with background music becoming popular for a short period before the trend quickly changes. That’s why I think making timeless music that people can still enjoy years later is much more important.
Look at The Beatles and Michael Jackson. People still listen to their music after all these years. I don’t know much about SKZ’s music, so I can’t judge them. But BTS has this kind of timeless music. As a new listener, I can still listen to their early releases and enjoy them even after all these years. Their songs age like wine.
That’s one of the reasons they keep attracting new listeners: their music doesn’t depend on trends or becoming popular through TikTok.

@is.this.nailsart.designs2609 3 weeks ago

Self produced doesn't automatically mean good songs, and also making popular songs don't automatically mean good songs...So it's not because his songs aren't successful that they are automatically bad...😊

@EloraDanen 3 weeks ago

SKZ don’t make mainstream music and yet it touches so many people. The fact that the only ones who listen to their music are STAY and still they top album charts and sell out stadiums all over the world is an achievement most “hit” artist can only dream about. They should be proud of that.

@fauziahpawan6605 3 weeks ago

RM and Suga who are not only BTS main songwriters but have very high komca credits have never celebrated or even mention their standing in komca....i can understand why Bang Chan want his komca listing to be lowkey and unhyped....he deserves a hit song but he knows what he wants to write about and if people dont make it a hit it doesnt mean it was not a good song.