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Why Pride Could Let You Down

Geeky Stoics

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Vegeta's Pride in Dragon Ball Z is one of the most important plotlines in this beloved series. In this video, you'll learn about the danger of Pride, why it held Vegeta back, and how the Prince of Saiyans transformed his pride into sacrificial love. With insights from the Stoic philosopher, Seneca and C.S. Lewis, we hope this teaches you about Pride, why it is not to be trusted, and how to vanquish it in yourself.

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20 Comments

@NC_Zimmer 1 year ago

I appreciate the emphasis on Goku's Righteous Anger, as opposed to Vegeta's. Goku's anger usually stems from witnessing the suffering of others, and since death isn't as much of a consequence in their universe, it makes even more sense that their suffering is pointless. When Majin Vegeta blasts the tournament crowds, Goku isn't just furious at their pain or fear of the end, it's also the fact that Vegeta is throwing an adult-sized tantrum and they're paying for it.

@EclipseHedgehog 1 year ago

"Pride is not the opposite of shame but its source. True humility is the only antidote to shame" - Iroh

@luisvelez1952 1 year ago

Zuko’s pride lead to the reason Aang was electrocuted by Azula and Iroh arrested in book 2 earth

@e.m.ldonahue5605 1 year ago

Pride cometh before destruction. And near everytime Vegeta got too prideful before a battle he got royally demolished. Except for his Recoome brawl. He knew he was outclassed back then.

@AndyTheKid29 1 year ago

"virtue is comprised of two components: reflection and conduct" - Seneca

@Mankey619 1 year ago

Vegeta is one of the most prideful characters in DBZ. The guy who refuses to be second best, and trained just to surpass Goku in strength. But pride alone cost him so much in his life. Until the end of Buu Arc where he finally rids his pride, and excepts his new home.

@Retr0sSandbox 1 year ago

My man really delivered on his promise. Great video, just what I needed right now

@alphalamda545 1 year ago

Love what this channel is about. God bless you brother

@TheThirdKng 1 year ago

I'm really sorry to hear about your dad man, I pray that you and your family can find some peace. God bless.

@Coffee_Vegeta 1 year ago

Majin Vegeta's sacrifice was one of the most well written character arcs in all of fiction

@weissbrot-rg9hd 8 months ago

This makes so much sense. I appreciate the lecture

@kamerondonaldson5976 1 year ago

what you were born with can't be taken from you quite as easily as something that you built can be destroyed, though time has a way of doing both. humility is the root word of humiliation. the ruin of one's dignity. while vulnerability isn't a good thing as it leaves you open to continued exploitation it is nonetheless the reality for most for the time being. these defeats, these unjustified injuries to one's perfect self image, are setbacks that will be overcome in time.

@scrubzero1735 1 year ago (edited)

6:52 this is only applicable to Vegeta very early on in the series. The Pride Vegeta has in his heritage is in and of itself an acknowledgment that he can only do much of what he does because of the gifts he’s been given. As a character Vegeta has almost always put in the effort required to fully realize his potential, and even became upset when he learns that Gohan is wasting his gifts by refusing to train himself.

I believe Vegeta is a bad example of pride going too far. Especially in his most modern depictions.

@Guesstaker 1 year ago

To dive into characters throught bible and philosophy is such a good way to make people more self aware since people often have a connection with a character of a certain fictional peace, well done, i think i will stick to your content

@troysong7346 7 months ago

What a wonderful concept. Thank you.

@baronvonkek8467 1 year ago

Every time Vegeta has gotten a huge power boost is when he's had to humble himself or be humbled.

The Zenkai boost from being beaten by Goku.

The Zenkai boost from letting Krillin almost kill him.

When he turned Super Saiyan on that dying planet because he didn't care about being better than Goku, or even if he lived.

Even when he became Majin Vegeta, he had to let Babidi get control over him.