What do you guys think about King and Grabs in general in Tekken 8?  Does King deserve the hate or Is he just hated because of the New Grab systems in Tekken 8?  Let me know! Also I accidently said grabs are guaranteed as punisher but I meant as punisher for power crush moves

This isn't just a Tekken problem. Casual players of almost any fightering game hate grapplers. Something about that archetype just annoys people regardless of they are top or low tier.

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Man, to be a Main King nowadays is to receive constant hate, but that doesn't matter when you remember that every victory and every butt we kick is for the happiness of the children.

Grabs beat sidesteps, armor atacks, parries, basically the best counterhit tools in the game (10f-12f), give no recoverable health, are true mix ups, over half of a full combo worth of damage or more, no recovery on wiff, extremely safe go to option, very hard to break even for high level players, and probably make your coffe and pays your bills as well.

He just annoys me personally but yeah I agree with your point about it being an issue of grabs in general and less about the character himself

Idc what nobody says. Whorerang is 3 times worse then king

It’s crazy how much tekken king can just straight up avoid playing

I played King on a Tekken 3 arcade cabinet in a random pizza shop when I was visiting family when I was about 7 years old. When my brother and friends invited me to play Tekken 7, I saw him again and picked him. Then I played him in Tekken 8, however I didn't like playing Tekken, I liked playing King. Now, I'm grinding through the ranks, and I'm actually enjoying Tekken as a whole. People can hate me all they want, but King is the reason I play Tekken. That's my goat. The Beast Priest.

If I lose to ANY other character I can learn during the rematch. If I'm getting grabbed on loop, I feel like the only way to learn is going into the replay to learn the input.

I'd love a system where after rounds or even full matches the game pops up a small tool tip telling you what the grab-break input is for any grabs you got hit by during the match. Because once I know what the break is, getting the timing right and eventually breaking grabs is actively fun and satisfying.

King it's only his name.......he is emperor

Honestly the problem isn't his grabs, its his sheer amount of armour moves that force you to stay still and eat strings.

I find Dragunovs throws much more obnoxious

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I feel like he just doesn't give up anything in exchange for his grabs. Most grapplers in other fighting games trade mobility in exchange for their command grabs, so they struggle a lot to get in. King on the other hand has more mobility options than half the cast (i.e. crouch dash), fast moves, good counter hit tools and a myriad of command grabs (some of them being true mix-ups), which starting with Tekken 8 now track and are unbreakable on counter hit or block punish. And that's not even counting Heat. It gives jaguar sprint armor (and he has an unbreakable throw during this stance), it allows recovering heat by just applying his gameplan, and has the most damaging heat smash in the game.

I think there are major balancing issues with the character, and since it's very unlikely they would just roll back the throw system changes, they should probably just tone down his damage in exchange for all the new opportunities for grabs there are now.

My biggest issue is that playing vs King feels like watching unskippable cutscenes

His dickjab on ch has an animation

Half his moves have followup animations

His grabs last forever

The amount of time spent vs King just watching with no control over your character is higher than vs any other matchup. It contributes a lot to why it's so frustrating.

its a shame because king as a character is so cool, his design is iconic. but grabs should not track to both sides and not be guaranteed on Counter hit. I wouldn't even mind them toning down the damage on his throws aswell. like does giant swing really have to do 70 dmg?? lol,  Even if it did 60 dmg that would still be a lot. Also the fact that some of the throw animations lie to you and look like a 1+2 throw when they actually are a 1 throw is crazy.

By far the worst part about king is the counter hits, ch throws, shove, df2,1 being able to hit confirm on ch and ffn2 make him such a pain to play against

that damn" jaguar sprint"😆

My main is Azucena. Most times when i got a match against King, im always fighting while ducked😂 the leg sweep never fails. King mostly grabs while standing