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Inside John Ternus’ New Apple + Meta’s Vision Pro Killer | Power On with Mark Gurman

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In this episode of Power On, Mark Gurman and Bloomberg tech editor Vlad Savov unpack John Ternus’ first month running Apple — from his push to make the company leaner and faster to his unusually hands-on role overseeing design. They discuss why more layoffs could be coming, how Ternus is putting design back at the center of Apple and why Tim Cook, now executive chairman, remains the company’s face on the world stage. Then, Mark gives his verdict on Meta’s new $1,299 VR glasses after trying them himself — and explains why they are the device Apple’s Vision Pro should have been all along.

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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction from Mark Gurman
00:01:46 - Mark Takes Listener Questions
00:05:40 - How was John Ternus’ First Month As CEO?
00:12:04 - Mark Compares John Ternus and Tim Cook as CEO
00:21:45 - What is the State of Apple’s Siri AI?
00:23:29 - The Meta Connect and The VR Market
00:31:05 - Mark Speaks on the Vision Pro VS Meta VR Glasses
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20 Comments

@slickairmash 2 days ago

Can we get a separate PowerOn channel? Definitely not subscribing to Bloomberg podcasts

@jebbrown5961 29 minutes ago

Rich companies that fail to keep employees happy will suffer brain drain and help competitors.

@andyericson3861 15 hours ago

I bought the Anna Pro 2 headset for my Vision Pro and use it anywhere from 6 to 10 hours a day. I went from using it as the ultimate portable laptop screen to doing everything on my Vision Pro once I could wear it comfortably for many hours at a time. I think it’s worth every penny. I paid for it and more. I feel like I live in the future compared to all my buddies still using computers. He just know that the next evolution will be moving the compute into a puck and Apple will have a hit on their hands. I don’t just work on my vision Pro, I watch movies, watch YouTube videos, social media, serve the Internet, text, email look at my photo library at a whole other level compared to anything out there. Vision Pro is the best tech I’ve ever owned.

@Remix26 2 days ago

Apple doesn't talk about the Vision Pro because it's way too expensive. Give us a headset around a grand and it'll sell like crazy.

@LangleyNA 1 day ago

Power On episode two! 👍

@LangleyNA 23 hours ago

I didn't see any fast single-second title card sequences this time! Good change! 👍

@windoxer 1 day ago

Really liking this podcast.

@lilmichael212 2 days ago

Mark has a personal vendetta against VR I swear 😂

@pumpuppthevolume 2 days ago

vpro integration with the home devices could be very neat

@SkidtogKanel 18 hours ago

:hand-pink-waving:

@RedShoes29 1 day ago

If likeability was a factor, why not just Craig? He's not much older; that man can charm a brick wall.

@amussegaard 13 hours ago

It sounds as if Mark is still using the microphone on his AirPods Pro, meaning he forgot to switch the microphone to the Shure mic.

@Arabnigga911 2 days ago

This is not VR’s last stand.

Meta VR glasses do come close but if we can get a wide FOV, high fidelity/PPD, subsidize pricing, and WiFi breakthrough to seamlessly stream 8K, while the weight stays 100g or less. Then we made it to a general market, and long term use friendly device.

@kal-kk9fh 2 days ago

I'm not sure why people get bent out of shape about the price for any creator just for using it while traveling on the plane. It's worth it. How else are you gonna get this size screen anywhere you go

@toddheberlein544 2 days ago

I am part of the Apple Vision Pro cult, but I am also hoping Meta VR Glasses succeeds. Apple could easily copy this approach - Magic Leap did it, and XREAL is doing it. The question I have is, "Does Apple have an executive with sufficient passion for the Vision platform and sufficient clout inside Apple to make the platform a success?"

@humbleandok 2 days ago

Sorry but AR glasses that weigh even LESS than the Meta VR glasses are still NOT comfortable because they sit on your friggin nose. I’ve tried them. They are simply not comfortable for work.

A head strap system is still better. Could the Apple Vision be lighter and cheaper…yeah of course.

There’s tons of room for improvement in the space for both Meta and Apple.

@software93 2 days ago

So if no one at Apple uses it, how do know what updates to give it

@toututu2993 2 days ago

I don't know, VR has been improve a lot in software release so far. There are a lot of active userbase in online VR games. Hardware sell isn't the only revenue for VR

@saadfaar 3 hours ago

Although i dont like meta due to privacy concerns but it would be great for them to launch a fitness tracker with the screen rather than releasing charm. People use their meta glasses and the fitness band with screen would be a good add on. I dont know but thats what i think could work for them. Please add comments if you agree or not. I would love to other people take on this. Tia.

@pumpuppthevolume 2 days ago

vr is already successful bro ...headsets don't need to be as common as cars for it to be successful......this was just the first 10 years ....basically the same as the 1st 10 years of apple desktop computers

and it's still super early ......super tiny size and 20/20 varifocal human vision is possible