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The age thing really grinds my gears across ALL of kpop. I'm still waiting for it to change. Debuting 24-30 should be normal. And having a 10-15year+ career should be normal. Basically I wish JPop standards were also KPop standards cries

I felt so bad when Seungri spoke on Sori’s age, but look how karma works because now he’s going to jail for 3 years 😂

I feel so bad for the contestants of GP999
More specifically for the Chinese and Japanese girls 😢.

I'm not very familiar with K Pop survival shows or the culture of K pop in general so this video was a great introduction. Can we get a round of applause for the two female judges shutting down the guy belittling a female contestant for being 28 and "too old to debut". Seeing the little kids on a show like that should have raised all kinds of red flags, and that girl dancing to Ariana Grande's "Side To Side" when she was a literal minor at 13! Why did no one at any point step in and put a stop to that?

Seungri’s audacity is crazy because he wasn’t even supposed to be in bigbang since he had no talent at all 💀💀

we also need to acknowledge how no matter how many times mistreatment/rigging/favoritism/devil editing/issues with survival shows are brought up/discussed, that the reason companies can still create so many of these programs is that people keep buying into the hype and allure of it

it's probably unfair to put the blame on the general public, but think about it. an equal amount of scrutiny has to be put on how viewers and fans fall for tactics like evil editing and how it's affected a lot of trainees' mental wellbeing, how entire hate mobs form around contestants making it or not making it to the final lineup, directed at young people who are pretty much still vulnerable to promises of fame and are exploited and scrutinized while being made to think that this is all part of the process. the fandom created around these programs are just as toxic to these trainees and idols, just in a different way

I remember watching Produce 48 and thinking how rude the judges were to most of the Japanese idols who auditioned. It was like one after the other of all the Japanese girls were getting terrible rankings with the exception of Sakura. It was really disheartening to see how awful they were treated on the show

the women going off at 18:23 - chef's kiss.

Honestly I don’t understand parents who allow their young children to take part in these competitions/shows. It’s incomprehensible to me that anyone would allow a 12 year old (or even younger, wtf) to participate. I think there should be an 18+ age limit.

You should have mentioned the possibility of the Survival Show being a big FLOP like The Unit or not even debuting a group (*cough* mixnine *cough*). Basically giving the final participants hope for nothing. Making them being abuse in pain and stressed for nothing. (They should never be treated like that!)
Also, you forgot to add that these shows can easily be rigged like Produce 48, Produce X 101 and Idol School.

that note from the producer from produce 101 about wanting to create healthy porn shocked me so much..i had to pause and take a second cause wtf 😭

fans always complain how awful survival shows are but then completely forget about the whole discussion when the next one comes along and the cycle keeps going 🤥

I love the fact those women stood up to that guy for that age stuff. It's sad that women have to go through that meanwhile those crusty men don't. People age, it's a normal part of life, that doesn't mean you're worth less.

Oh my I still have PTSD with Girls Planet 999. 😢 I remember how badly the Chinese group were treated plus evil editing and favored this member so she’ll debut.

Behind the glitz and glamour, the K-pop industry and culture is rotten to the core. Thank you for documenting this.

I hate how knetizens calls them old hags (especially ggs) when they start hitting 22 onwards

this is also why i dont want to watch any survival show if there are underage contestants.. like it breaks my heart seeing them being exhausted in any way when they should be out in the real world to enjoy their child/teen years before adulthood.. and the parents that allow them to go on such shows should understand how damaging it can be for a young mind still developing

Truthfully…these shows just need to stop. Everything these kids are going through are just getting worse and worse: no food, no sleep, evil editing, language barriers, better-than-you judges and mentors. Since I know this crap will never stop, I’d prefer to see no male judges on the female shows and vice versa. One of Asia’s biggest problems is sexualizing kids, and these shows don’t help when an old ass man like YG is making age comments😵‍💫

Produce rigging gaeun out of the lineup will forever hurt considering she is such an angel.