It is interesting to note that the upper room was in the city:

Acts 1:12-13 KJVS
Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. [13] And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode g both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, h and Judas the brother i of James."

The idea that every one that is saved or is to be saved must be in the country is another false theology that's so frustratingly preached by our teachers.

The disciples left the city only after they had ended their preaching and Abomination that maketh desolate stood in the Holy place.

Sunday Law legislation is not the Abomination that maketh desolate standing in the holy place. It is the taking away of the daily and setting up Abomination that maketh. But Abomination that maketh desolate does not stand up until after the Latter rain-empowered preaching of the three Angels' messages is accomplished and concluded.

THE ERROR OF PREACHING TWO PROBATIONS-ONE FOR SDA AND ANOTHER FOR NON-SDA

This doctrine of end of probation for Seventh-day Adventist church, I believe is modelled after the fact that after Stephen was stoned, probation ended for the Jewish nation-church. But this was for the corporate entity of the state and church, not for individuals. It never meant that salvation was ended and probation ended for all and any Jew.  This point has to be made clear, and I am frustrated that our teachers do not make this clarification. They give the impression that after the latter rain, some say after the Sunday Law is passed, probation is ended for all Seventh-day Adventists. This suggests that any professed Seventh-day Adventist who has not been saved at these points, will never be saved.

Is it true that after Stephen was stoned to death, no other Jew was ever saved before AD 70? The Bible never reaches this.

Therefore, our teachers should desist from teaching that on the day  Sunday Law is legislated, or Latter rain poured out, it is too late for any unsaved Adventist to be saved.

God's people in Babylon doesn't apply only to literal Non-Seventh day Adventists. To be in Babylon is not a physical experience, based on formal SDA membership and non-SDA membership. It is a spiritual state. There are Seventh-day Adventist members who are still in Babylon. They have not fully committed. There will still be hope for them. Probation closes only when the sealing of the 144000 saints occurs, and this is after the period of preaching the three Angels' messages with the power of the Latter rain.

As Christ stated it, "And then shall the gospel be preached unto all the world, and then shall the end come".

Just as salvation was still available to Jews after Stephen was stoned, and there was opportunity for any to be saved from AD 70 destruction, so it it is that Seventh-day Adventists still have opportunity to be saved up until the sealing of the 144000 is accomplished.

The Lord Jesus rebukes the false teachings in these comments! Repent! The dead know nothing! And apparently most of those in the comments

Dear David, EG White nader it clear that the personality of God is everything to us as a people. So, it is not a side issue.

You are again seeing time as well. I have lost so much money listening to you, but that is fine. Just hear the Lord. This is not a side issue, Jesus is the real, only begotten Son of God. If you keep on saying it is metaphorical, it is denying the Father and the Son

Die Groot Skudding is alreeds besig om plaas te vind, as ek na sommige mense  se opmerkings kyk!

These are the same people who teach Christians are obligated to become Jews.

DESTROYING THE DOCTRINE OF SOUL SLEEP AND ANNIHILATIONISM!    
The same unbelief that causes people not to believe in God, also cause many not to believe in hell.  I mean a fiery unending torment of hell.   The Adventists and the like try to make an Atheists argument that when the wicked are destroyed in a fire, they are "annihilated" and are no longer being tormented or punished.   They will make arguments like, "Is Sodom and Gomorrah still burning" ?   Every place where the term, "unquenchable fire" is used, the claim it means it is quenchable contrary to the express terminology.  To what profit is it to use, "unquenchable" when the term quenchable means what the Adventists want it to say?
The Adventists, Armstrongites and like the carnal Atheist sit at the funeral of the loved one and only see the death of the body  and nothing beyond.  Adventist and the Atheists agree, there is nothing beyond the death of the body.  *** Jeremiah 17:27 God warns Jerusalem that if they disobey, He will kindle a fire in the gates “and it shall not be quenched.”
Here, the carnal minded Atheists, the JW's and the Adventists seek to reduce man to an animal and reply "Did Jerusalem burn forever?" If one wants to follow the same stupid carnal logic of the Adventist' , they can ask if the insects and animals got "unquenchable fire" just like the people in Jerusalem.   For Adventists and the cults, it would have been just the same of Christ had said, you shall be as a deer in a forest fire so that man was no more than an animal in the forest.  The entire intent of the cults is to avoid the true meaning of "unquenchable" .  

The Adventists, JW's and Armstrongites, all cults respond by saying, "No — it burned until it was destroyed by Babylon. The fire was unquenchable because no one could stop it, not because it burned eternally."  Which response is totally carnal without the ability to see the true consequences.   The PEOPLE of Sodom and Gomorrah ARE STILL BURNING IN TORMENT.   THAT IS THE POINT.   God had intervened in the affairs of humanity and would no longer tolerate letting the sinners of Sodom and Gomorrah go unpunished for one more minute.  And, he sent them all to hell to be tormented in the flames of hell.  

Ezekiel 20:47–48   God says He will kindle a fire in the forest of the Negev: “the blazing flame shall not be quenched.”
Again, Here, the Atheists, the JW's and the Adventists reply that the fire IS QUENCHED, contrary to the words and then say "Did Jerusalem burn forever?" Amos 5:6 Israel is warned that God will “devour… and there will be none to quench it.” Same pattern: unstoppable! It cannot and will not be put out, making an end of the torment of these sinners.  

Here in Isaiah 34:9–10 Edom’s land will burn: “It shall NOT  be quenched night nor day.” The fundamentalists say, "The land is burned" .  So what?  It is the people dwelling on the land of Edom that are sent to be burned.   The burning of the land is symbolic of the collective people dwelling on the land of Edom who are so wicked that God cuts their lives short to send them directly to hell to be "tormented" .   Just as "the Chaff" is said to be burned is symbolic of the wicked people who will be sent to hades to be tormented.  

2. What “unquenchable” means in Hebrew and Greek Hebrew: לֹא תִכְבֶּה (lo tikhbeh) Meaning: cannot be extinguished  Usage: A fire that no one can put out. There is no such thing as a fire that cannot be put out, unless it is a reference to the fires of hell and everlasting torment.  

Greek: ἄσβεστος (asbestos) Meaning: inextinguishable, They say "It describes the quality of the fire (unstoppable), burning in duration."

🔥 3. Jesus’ audience already knew this meaning When John the Baptist says: “He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” (Matt. 3:12)  It is JESUS HIMSELF THAT DECLARES THAT THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT TEACHES THE IMMEDIATE PUNISHMENT OF THE SOULS OF THE WICKED AFTER DEATH.  LUKE 16:19-31.  "the Moses and the prophets let them hear them" .  And "they would not believe though someone came from the dead and told them" .  HOW DEADLY SERIOUS, yet the Adventists, JW's and many other scoff at such warnings.  Why even pretend to be Christian if you are not going to believe Christ and the prophets?

The cults respond "The Chaff is not tortured forever."  The Chaff is burned up means engulfed with fire, these are people not animals, not vegetation, as the carnal minded Adventists would have you believe.  The image is agricultural, while the reality is people in torment of fire! . . “Unquenchable fire” vs. “eternal fire” These are different concepts: Unquenchable fire = cannot be stopped or put out.  

Eternal fire = fire whose effects are eternal (Jude 7) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by “eternal fire,”,  the SDA and the cults ask "yet they are not still burning" ?   The whole imagery presented by Jude is that THE CITY, REPRESENTS, "THE PEOPLE" whose lives were interrupted by the Judgment of God, no longer waiting until they died, but forcing their lives to be cut short and sent immediately to hell to be tormented and punished for their iniquity, NOT SOUL SLEEP!
The judgment was eternal IN FLAMES  7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire, MEANING UNENDING TORMENT IN FIRE!  

Malachi 4:1 says the wicked will be like stubble: “the day that comes shall burn them up.” Which is a picture of their flesh in torment starting with the visible fire upon the city and ending with the torment them forever after their flesh has been burned up.  
Luke 16:26-35 says regarding the torment of the wicked, "They have Moses and the Prophets,(the entire old testament) let them hear them" meaning the entire Old Testament. And, again in Luke 16:26-31 Christ says, "If they will NOT hear Moses and the Prophets, NEITHER will they believe even if one came back  from the dead and warned them" Once again, the Adventist CHANGED the doctrine of Christ from unending torment , to soul sleep.  What torment awaits them for their blind arrogance to think they can change UNENDING TORMENT OF THE WICKED TO "SOUL SLEEP" LIKE THE ATHEISTS AND GODLESS TEACH!  G*Lazarus and the Rich man* Once again, In Typical Fashion , the Adventists will make void the explicit word of God, and hold to their tradition and doctrine of men, rather than conform to the truth.*  
Christ himself debunks and destroys the SDA  doctrine of SOUL SLEEP IN ONE VERSE!!! DECLARING THE WHOLE  OLD TESTAMENT TEACHES THE IMMORTALITY OF THE SOUL  
Luke 16:31 DO YOU ADVENTIST GET THIS?!! CHRIST SAID MOSES AND THE PROPHETS  (old testament in its entirety)  WARNS YOU OF THE TORMENT OF YOUR SOUL AFTER DEATH!
To correctly understand Luke 16:19-31, one needs to know that Hades is a place now (after Christ's resurrection) where the wicked souls are tormented and punished until the resurrection of the body wherein both the body of the wicked is tormented with the soul for eternity.

Luke 16:19-31 is not a parable. Christ said explicitly Moses and the Prophets (that's the entire Old Testament)  taught eternal conscious torment and so did Christ Himself.
Isaiah 66: 22-24 presents a WHOLE LOT of problems for the Adventist! 24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for THEIR worm shall not die , neither shall THEIR fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.* They can't explain how it is, that the " carcasses " are NEVER BURNED TO ASHES ! Any mortician will tell you, that you can burn a body to ashes in a couple of minutes! YET THIS SCRIPTURE SAYS FOR MONTH AFTER MONTH AND WEEK AFTER WEEK, THEY ARE NOT BURNED UP * . It's a total refutation of SDA conditional mortality! Moreover, *the  worm of THEIR torment is never going to die! YET THIS SCRIPTURE SAYS FOR MONTH AFTER MONTH AND WEEK AFTER WEEK, THEY ARE NOT BURNED UP * . It's a total refutation of SDA conditional mortality! Moreover, *the worm of THEIR torment is never going to die! Leave it to Adventism to teach the exact opposite of the scriptures! The scripture says their worm will NEVER DIE, Adventist says it only lasts a couple of seconds in a fire! The scripture says, the fire is unquenchable and "WLL NOT BE QUENCHED" The Adventist's TEACH IT WILL BE QUENCHED in a matter of seconds! You can't make this stuff up.
The bible makes it clear Sodom and Gomorrah are still in torment. Those who died in the Noahian flood are still in torment. Those that rebelled against Moses are in still in torment *and you will be too shortly along with all your fake "Pastors" and your false prophetess, especially. All the heretics, false preachers, false teachers, who have ever lived and those that have followed them go straight to hell.
Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of hosts, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.
Isaiah 30:27 Behold, the name of the Lord cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:
Isaiah 33:12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.
Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Isaiah 34:9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. (Compare with Rev.14:11)

DEATH IS NOT ANNIHILATION FOR A HUMAN.  HUMANS ARE NOT THE SAME AS ANIMALS! GOD DID NOT BREATHE INTO THE ANIMALS AND GIVE THEM A SOUL AS HE DID MAN.  
WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE? ANIMALS WERE NOT MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.  
WHAT THE HADES IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?

What deliberate deception you do to yourself.  The immortality of the soul and the torment of the wicked after death was taught both in the old and new testament.  You deserve everything you get.  The moral of the story of Lazarus and the rich man is giving to you by Christ Himself, when he said, "THEY WOULD NOT BELIEVE EVEN THOUGH SOMEONE CAME BACK FROM THE DEAD AND TOLD THEM"!  
*And, again, Christ said that "MOSES AND THE PROPHETS ALL TOLD THEM OF THE TORMENT OF THE WICKED AFTER THE DEATH OF THE BODY*"  
But, your deliberate and blind preference to deceive yourselves and the public will haunt and torment you forever.  Go ahead and believe these false teachers, you deserve what you get!  Luke 16:27-31

Where are God's people you say they certainly are not in the SDA church. Well maybe a few but there will be many not chosen because they have followed man and his pagan holidays and not the words of Jesus.

MOST PRECIOUS BLOOD OF MY MASTER AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST ❤️ REIGN IN ME AND IN THE LIVES OF ALL MEN 💘 AMEN

NO! After Jesé’s resurrection HE DID NOT go INTO THE MOST HOLY PLACE -> only the HOLY Place!

You all do hate Christ, because you've learn to love a false christ and hate the true one (2Cor. 11- the whole chapter) describes exactly what has happened to you who have followed a false prophet.

Every voice is needed these days. Just know that Ellen set the stage long ago. The event of Revelation 13:13 begins the shaking and the sifting of the church. This is the day men witness "fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men." From that day, "the final events" to “Armageddon” in the 6th of "the seven last plagues" will be rapid ones, as Paul said of the LORD: "For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth." Verses 14-18 are the time of "the mark of the beast"―the beast being Rome, and "her" mark: the globalization of sins against the 2nd & 4th Commandments to be enforced on every man.
A crucial point to remember: Ellen’s vision: “An Impressive Scene” warns of what transpires in the wake of Rev.13:13:
“In the visions of the night a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say: ‘We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon.’ Others, with agonized voices, said: ‘You knew! Why then did you not tell us? We did not know.’ On every side I heard similar words of reproach spoken.” Testimonies For The Church, Volume 9, pg.28.
From this, we see Satan's ultimatum against Job repeated to the whole world: "all that a man hath will he give for his life." The time of Christ's return is plainly laid out. With Ellen's describing the Constellation Orion being the identifying sign of Christ's return (Early Writings, p.41), we know that late autumn to early winter is the time of the 2nd Advent and the greatest rescue of human history since the Cross on Calvary, and before that, the "mercy" shown to our Premier Parents after their fall.
As the disciples fled Jerusalem to "Pella" between the siege of Cestius & Titus, every church must find their own "Pella" (Mk.13:14). The LORD already has places of refuge for GOD'S people when the Sunday law exodus takes place. Ellen said that angels dressed as soldiers will lead GOD'S faithful people to these places of safety to ride out the storm.

I though probation is close all ready now the latter rain comes acalling how long it will take to judge the latter rain to be fit for heaven

The Adventists and Armstrong Churches hold that Everlasting punishment means something to the effect of punishment that is "everlasting" in its affect, not in duration, because they refuse to believe God would continue to punish someone for their sins, not matter how evil forever.   They come out of the gate against God's vengeance and wrath often in an expression of blasphemy toward  God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in an act and open display of their hatred to such a God.  
They are often heard repeating the things Ellen G. White said about God being a "monster and Tyrant", even though the volume of scriptures in both the Old and New Testament repeatedly reinforce the Catholic and most of the Protestant position on the matter.  
How then are we to explain the two being so far apart, the Adventist belief in soul sleep and annihilation contrasted with the unending torment of the wicked.  
In the story of Lazarus and the rich man of Luke 16:19-31 Christ emphasizes the unending torment of the wicked immediately after death and like many Adventists who are the Richman's 5 brothers, who  wouldn't believe and repent though someone came back from the dead and told them.  Here, the rich man is explicitly displayed before the reader as in torment, "in this flame" with not so much as given a drop of water out of mercy to cool his tongue, and still his brothers would not repent and neither would the Adventists.  Of course, this is incredible blindness on the part of the Richman's five brothers as it is the Adventists.   I would have you ponder this for a moment before we move on.
Christ says that He is not going to send someone back from the grave to warn them, because they already have the entire Old Testament called, "the Law and the Prophets" to warn them, and if they would not believe the scriptures , neither would they believe someone came back from the dead and told them.   Ahh, yes, they  have the scriptures to warn them and they still would not repent or believe.  
During the centuries,  the fires of hell have been shown to the Catholic Saints and they all come back with the same story of the torment of the souls.  But, one wonders why God would not show the same visions of the torment in hell to the Adventists.  The answer is simply,  why should God show them the torment of hell? They have the scriptures explicitly depicting the torment agonizing pain.  
Yet, Christ, God, or some authorized angel will not.  But, why not? Because, if these same people were to actually see torment of the wicked, they would still not repent.  They would simply do as the Adventists have done, become more sorely hardened and angry at God, rather than humble and fear. They Adventists haven't seen hell and they already blaspheme and curse God.  So, God leaves them with their own carnal consciouses.  

Because, the Adventist mind is carnal and has been poisoned by the haters, they shall not see, even "though a man should declare it to them", as the scripture says. So, go on hating, see where it gets you. Then, how is it that some having  not seen neither torment of the wicked but heard or read the scripture do understand and repent and fear God?  The answer is contained below:
1Cor. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned…

Only 120 received the return of the Spirit of Jesus. He said he had to go away and be glorified. He promised he would come to them and be in them. Yes, it was the Spirit of Jesus that returned.

The early rain as you described was the results of the new covenant of the Spirit of Christ dwelling within the believer. Not seen in the old.

What you call the latter rain isn’t something to come but is the work of Christ thorough out the last 2000 years harvesting the souls.

What is happening right now is  a growth of faith and understanding about God. The SDAs faith in the catholic trinity is being rejected and a greater understanding of God who is one not three that has a son.

You’re spewing out lies concocted by EGW and deceiving faithful followers.
Satan is not the scapegoat, there is no probation, the Investigative Judgement is a false teaching and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God the Father sent to us thru Jesus.

You need to leave this 19th century deception and accept the revelation of God for these latter days. The Spirit of God is already being received. Ephesians 1:13,14 says re get it when we hear and believe. It is the seal of God not the Sabbath. Although the Sabbath is God’s sign of sanctification.

12:03 what " wife ready?" Any takers? Which wife is david making ready ?

3:57 so what sanctuary Jewish calendar was 1844?