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Mindfulness Without All The Effort | Loch Kelly (Co-Interviewed By Matt Harris)

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Tactics and practices to understand non-duality.

Loch Kelly is an author, psychotherapist, and nondual meditation teacher. Loch has Master’s Degrees from both Columbia University and Union Theological Seminary. He has his own app, called Mindful Glimpses. Loch is also a very popular teacher on the Waking Up app, run by friend of show, Sam Harris.

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20 Comments

@TK-bf4ng 2 years ago

Thanks so much, Dan. What a great tria-louge. Loch's nondual meditations have transformed my life so I am free of the PTSD and perpetual anxiety I had. I use his glimpses from Loch's Mindful Glimpses app everyday. So grateful!

@Changjsuh 9 months ago

Need a part 2 with Loch and Matt!
One of the best interviews with Loch🙏🏻

@cherylpereeia1756 2 years ago

Thanks so much Dan, another great conversation. For someone who has meditated for the past 25 years, I do understand Loch, but I also know that many would not get it! ❤🙏🏽

@yoga-essence1399 4 months ago

Absolutely precious talk - with so many helpful accesses to realize the ultimate - got some glimpses :)
For sure I will listen to that again and again. Thank you so much to the three of you!

@7JeTeL7 9 months ago (edited)

all and all one of the most instructive and explanatarory video regarding "non-duality, oneness or emptiness" issues with added value of three different views...really believe everyone will find his/hers own breakthrough moment in it!

@markfuller 11 months ago

Around @12:00 he talks about the next individuation (after observing thoughts, realizing you're not your thoughts. You're the observer of your thoughts). To me, that next step was to think of (no pun in tended) the first step being a realization that I exist without my thoughts. We go along engaged with thoughts. We are our thoughts (believing the narrative). The first step is results in realizing I exist without thinking. I don't need to think to exist.

The 2nd step was to ask "does my existence depend upon observation?" Step 1 led to being able to have brief moments of no thought (and I existed). Step 2 was to not observe too. I existed. I'm there without observing. I can not think, not observe, and I'm there.

@fineasfrog 2 years ago

What looks out through these eyes? St Francis is reported to have said: "What you are looking for is what is looking. Other key words: Open alive receptivity, effortless effort, choiceless awareness. Non-verbal presence, a container of experience that has no walls. Our true nature is boundlessness that has is like a womb of silent energy that has its own love, intelligence and compassion and courage.
The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. When attraction and aversion both are let go, everything becomes clear and undisguised. adapted from Sengtsan, Hsin Hsin Ming.

@BrianCurtisPsychologist 2 months ago

Really beautiful interview and practices. Took multiple pointers and practices from Loch, Sam, Joseph, Richard Lang / Douglas Harding, and others for it all to click, so to speak, in my case. The hyper-analytical problem-solver ego manager was the main obstacle. Endlessly trying to figure it out conceptually vs. simply dropping into the experience with the right pointers / experiments / glimpses. For those still frustrated with possibly a very empirical / skeptical / scientific outlook like my own, Richard Lang’s “The Headless Way” series on Sam’s Waking Up app, Loch’s book Shift Into Freedom, and Douglas Harding’s book On Having No Head were the most powerful tools for me. The pissed-off-ness is very much worth it (to say the least). Just keep being curious until you find the right pointers and experiments for you. Thanks so much for all your work, Dan! Such a gift.

@lmansur1000 1 year ago

This is great. To me, this is the ultimate in relative reality where one dies while still here. I suspect or the way I understand it is: that part of any being that is connected to the ocean or Universe is out and ones control is totally let go of and that part sees ones existence here in its totality, objectively with compassion and love. I suspect then the compassion and love is towards the relative being who has let go in the instance but also this compassion spontaneously expands to all beings. In everyday terms, it is releasing the ego completely and thus the whole duality is transformed into total objectivity with unconditional love. That is how I get it. Very exiting actually!! 🌺🙏🌺

@weaintinkansas 2 years ago

I can’t wait to listen to this one! I was hoping you’d talk to Loch one day! 🙌♥️

@ChristaL-rj6up 2 years ago

The parallel to me is with the idea that Ouspensky and Gurdjieff put forward of self remembering.

@monahasan255 10 months ago

I breathe in His divine love , so I breathe in continuous rebirth into peace🎉

@7JeTeL7 9 months ago (edited)

10:46-10:55 and 58:10-59:50 hold the key, where even that visceral feeling of "me" (which is automatically dissolved when further focused on anyway) is just another !object! (as well as sounds, feelings etc.) appearing within most basic, all encompassing and all pervasive layer, that boundless and transparent field of consciousness/awarness

@naftalibendavid 1 year ago

Data on learning styles are not good but we all learn a little differently.

@ShenOMalley 1 month ago

An opinion of my tradition is that the who that is speaking in your mind, may not be you. The idea that you are the only one in your mind complicate the idea of the self, which runs through every part of your body.

@AudreyKalman 2 years ago

I'm one of the people who experienced an almost instantaneous breakthrough. True, I may have been primed for it; I've experienced this non-dual state of awareness spontaneously in the past but couldn't name it. After several years of meditating and a lifetime of seeking to transcend the confines of individual ego, I still felt dissatisfied with the "everything or nothing" proposition. Confirming that there is a third way that encompasses both feels right. I also appreciated and took to heart your encouragement at the beginning of the episode to listen by simply letting the words wash over me. Thank you, and I look forward to exploring more of Loch's work!

@naturelover1284 2 years ago

I have a problem with getting rid of monkey mind because it's the culture mind and you need to be aware of it to know how the culture thinks in order to avoid it cuz it's so predictable so I don't have problems getting rid of it it's just trying to maneuver around it because it is necessary or you're going to get inundated