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Linus Torvalds: AI Is Flooding Linux

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Linus Torvalds Speaks on AI and how it affects the Linux kernel development and open source. We also hear from other projects and how they're being overwhelmed by AI reports and patches. AI has uncovered recent security bugs that were release before the fix.. We'll listen to the Creator of Linux.

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@SavvyNik Creator 1 month ago Pinned

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@harshitichigo7223 1 month ago

"you need a pilot to use auto pilot" , that's what's happening. They are giving lesser experienced devs or non devs access to AI for coding. That's what's happening rn lol.

@ObjectiveOrientatedProgramming 1 month ago

The thing I still think Linus is not appreciating is that LLMs decay even experienced developer's skills through their actual design. Always coaxing you to use them for just that tiny bit more than you initially intended.

I am a lecturer, aerospace engineer, and developer of over 12 years. I still fell into that trap...

Anyone is vulnerable to being a victim of the decay LLMs cause.

@serg_sel7526 1 month ago

We literally starting to spread DDoS attacks beyond computers and now doing it to real humans.
It's really a DDoS or DoS:
- Send ridicoulous amounts of data to a maintainer (server in pc)
- Overload him with processing it
- See as the maintaner just gets sunk in all bug reports and refuses to process more due to overloaded state (as server goes down on the amount of requests)

@doublinx2 1 month ago

The finding out after fsck-ing around is always funny, but man, did the entirely-avoidable-fallout have to involve something as mission critical as the Linux kernel?

@Namastechillin 1 month ago

We want solutions not problems - My boss early on in my career

@nicoozey 1 month ago

This reveals a problem nobody warned us about. AI does not just write code it floods the review process with work that looks good enough to waste your time. That slows everything down rather than speeding anything up. Manav Golecha frequently touches on this shift in his content. He often notes that the biggest bottleneck will not be generating work it will be telling which work is actually correct. Great to hear one of the most respected voices in software lay out exactly where the real friction lives.

@darkforestpicnic 1 month ago (edited)

Weve decoupled development velocity from development ability, and feature velocity was always what the managers used to measure success. Additionally devs have been trained by the industry to also see velocity as the greatest expression of achievement. It might take a period of massive software failures occurring consistently and synchronously across the entire industry for us to wake up and see what a massive mistake we've made.

@isaacwoodard2151 1 month ago

LLM: I am the solution! And the problem! A complete package deal!

@JSHADOWM 1 month ago

Important Context: Back in July, Linus said, to all the warnings of the community that "AI coding in the kernel isnt a Big deal. if it offends you, fork it, or walk away." As if everyone could have the skill needed to fork the Kernel.

he could have just banned it when he was warned about it, but nope.
he can still do the right thing, but now he has a bathroom to clean. tile by tile.

@peq42_ 1 month ago

and some morons think "oh we can solve the issue of AI slop spam pull requests with AI reviewing it!"

@astrahcat1212 1 month ago

Did we ever really need AI in the first place I wonder...

@ethanwasme4307 1 month ago

we're not shaming them enough.

@franklerouge 1 month ago

His anger management workshops really paid off.

@drwizarro 1 month ago

So wait. Linus was anti-AI in the beginning because it was flooding their bug reports and pull requests with slop. Then a few weeks ago he said "AI is here so get used to it, or fork it yourself". Now we're back to AI is flooding Linux? What the hell is even going on.

@satrac75 1 month ago

he said junk being produced. Junk is a much better word for slop. 😂

@nunonunillo 1 month ago

30% of code written by AI is what took Microsoft to make Windows 11 a joke of an OS. Let's see how much AI code can the kernel endure until meeting that very same destiny. 🙄

@Tenelia 1 month ago

did we all forget what happened in the past when we gave interns and juniors IntelliSense and IntelliCode...

@Xaymar 1 month ago

My favourite part about this is that in a way using AI removes all licensing agreements previously placed on the code. No more GPL restrictions when a GPL code base uses AI in many regions of the world! The shoot yourself in the foot approach to licensing under any copyleft license!