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Good job Jay, I'm clapping with my two uncreated right hands.

Uploaded 30 seconds ago...Time stamp Chads no where to be found...uh oh bros...I ain't feel so good...😢 it's literally over...

Jake needs help. Save him, Lord Jesus Christ.

He forgot you were cross examining him, and thought you were doing a stand up routine from all the times he was giggling at your questions. 💀💀

That’s Michael Lofton moonlighting as a Muslim apologist. I swear it is, my nuance.

Dude when you started laughing at him near closing. I was dying. They get so wild when you laugh at them. Something about when Jay laughs at them they get pissed. hahaha. Great showing as usual, thanks Jay.

Was a nice touch slipping in a jab at "Matt Dillamonkey" 🤣

Calling himself the Muslim metaphysician and doesn't understand basic philosophy. Jay clearly won

Jake came off like a child. Jay composed himself showing true patience

Jake has no idea how to use rhetoric, now he looks like an effeminate clown. Jay cleared him in this debate, especially the cross examination

"What's an uncreated foot, Jake?"😂

-calls himself "The Muslim Metaphysician"
-doesn't know what temporal space is
They are not putting out their brightest, are they

Jake is one emotional dude.

Jake is literally a character from Malibu’s most wanted

jake has a body soul and spirit, woah apparently jake is actually 3 men 1+1+1=3!!!

I liked the part where Jake asked if Jay knew what those Arabic terms meant and instead of explaining he just moved on. Seems like a common problem with Muslim apologists to need to rely on their own terminology.

I guess this stems from the same idea that their scriptures can only be properly read in Arabic. Very obscuranitist.

Jay shows why these guys belong at speakers corner and not in serious debates.... No intellectual content only slogans and word concept fallacy... He relies on the ignorance of those watching...

TIMESTAMPS:

Opening Statements:
0:02:10 - Jakes Opening Statement
0:17:30 - Jays Opening Statement

10 Minute Rebuttals:
0:33:50 - Jakes 10 Minute Rebuttal
0:43:20 - Jay 10 Minute Rebuttal

5 Minute Rebuttals:
0:54:00 - Jakes 5 Minute Rebuttal
1:01:20 - Jays 5 Minute Rebuttal

Cross Examination:
1:07:00 - Jakes 7 Minute Cross Examination
1:15:15 - Jays 7 Minute Cross Examination
1:23:25 - Jakes 7 Minute Cross Examination
1:31:00 - Jays 7 Minute Cross Examination
1:39:00 - Jakes 7 Minute Cross Examination
1:48:00 - Jays 7 Minute Cross Examination

Closing Statements:
1:56:50 - Jakes Closing Statement
2:04:40 - Jays Closing Statement

QnA:
2:12:50 - Question for Jake: "Jake says that we are Polytheists, does he know he follows a Pagan God named La"
2:13:40 - Question for Jake: "How does Allah who is above 7 Heavens descend to lowest Heaven, does he have temporal space"
2:14:30 - Question for Jake: "Allah has internal attrbutes that require a recepient, therefore he is independent on other than himself to express himself"
2:15:30 - Question for Jake: "Why does the Quran claim it is clear, detailed and explains everything, yet Muslims opinions differ on Allah and the Quran"
2:16:20 - Question for Jake: "Is LGTV allowed in Islam and was Muhammad kissing another mans chest in Sunnah 5224"
2:17:00 - Question for Jay: "Your opening statement failed to challenge Tawhid and not once did you prove the Trinity"
2:18:00 - Question for both: "Jay, are Mormons Muslim" and "Jake what are your thoughts on Mormons compared to other Christian groups"
2:19:50 - Question for Jake from Beau Branson: "Jakes quotes me saying that Trinitarianism "seems" like saying 1+1+1 = 1, not that it is, he admits that I next put Gregory of Niceas response in standard predicate logic giving a formal consistency proof"
2:21:20 - Question for Jake from Beau Branson: "If there should turn out to be any problem with the doctorine of the Trinity at all, it will not be mere one of logical incosistency, in saying that "These 3 are 1" "
2:23:00 - Question for Jay: "The Messiah (whose name wasn't Jesus) didn't know the hour, when did the Holy Spirit relinquis the power to have the same knowledge as the Father"
2:24:50 - Question for Jay: "Jay Dyer saying that Jakes doesn't understand the quote is not an argument against Jake, make an actual argument"
2:25:15 - Question for Jake: "So there is 1 Allah with multiple body parts (i.e the hands are distinct from his shin), complete partiality of Allah"
2:25:55 - Question for Jake: "Jake why do you worship 99 Gods?"
2:26:20 - Question for Jay: "If the Son wanted the tree to be yellow and the Holy Spirit wanted it to be orange and the Father wanted it to be blue, what the color would the tree be?"
2:27:05 - Question for Jay: "Did a natural theist just try to hijack the antropology of the Nous without Essence/Energy distinction?"
2:27:40 - Question for Jake: "If Son cannot cause another person, can Allahs foot cause another Allahs hand?"
2:28:00 - Question for Jake: "Would you debate David Wood"
2:28:10 - Question for Jay: "Is the Son an Asei , if yes how is that possible since he is Begotten, and if no, how is he God, because it is greater to be a Asei and God is maximally great"
2:28:55 - Question for Jake: "What is the point in Allah using the created term, like hand and foot, yet is NOTHING like a created hand or foot"
2:29:55 - Question for Jake: "Did Muhammad destroy Allahs idols with ???"
2:30:12 - Question for Jay: "Can Jay give an example of anything else that is counted differently as in the case of Trinity, 3 persons, 1 nature and 1 God"
2:31:15 - Question for Jake: "When Allah comes down the third part of the night to answer prayers, that means that Allah is like a Yo-Yo because the Earth is a globe, or did Muhammad think the Earth is flat"
2:32:30 - Question for Jay: "Michael Lofton dressed as a Muslim"
2:32:58 - Question for Jay: "How can an unlimited God be finite (i.e Jesus) and infinite (God) at the same time"
2:34:10 - Question for Jay: "How do you worship Jesus without worshiping his Nature, don't you have to worship his Nature which is idolatry"
2:36:00 - Question for Jay: "How have you actually read Athari position, cause when Jake asked you simple questions (yes or no), you have hard times answering (yes or no)"
2:36:45 - Question for Jake: "If Allahs foot and hands and other attributes of Allah are not divisions of Allah, but each one is an indentity, is each one a whole of Allah"
2:37:55 - Question for Jay: "Justin in his dialogue makes it clear that the Father cannot incarnate, this is clear subordinationism showing he belived that the Father had a level of greatness in his personhood where he can't incarnate, do you pray to a heretic"
2:24:00 - Question for Jake: "Allah is completely like uncreated things, but created things can predicate of Allah"
2:41:00 - Question for Jay: "You have a problem of God having a foot, but if you say God died, how does he have feet"
2:42:10 - Question for Jake: "You cannot have your own definitions and tell Jay to respond by using them, Allah means fake by my definition"
2:43:00 - Question for Jake: "Given ??? , since you pray to Allah how are you not a polytheist"
2:44:05 - Qustion for Jake: "If you were on the North pole and Jay was on the South pole, could you point to Allah"
2:45:45 - Question for Jake: "Does Islam teach that Jesus is the nephew of Moses"
2:46:00 - Question for Jake: "Can Jake tell us why Allah being called "the one the absolute" is not complete mimicry of Plotenus"
2:46:50 - Question for Jake: "Does Allah act in time or is he timeless"
2:48:15 - Question for Jake: "Why does Allah have 2 right hands"
2:48:50 - Question for Jake: "If Allah is the only eternal, then why does it say the Quran is also eternal"
2:49:45 - Question for Jake: "If Allahs hand is something that grabs, what is Allahs shin"
2:51:05 - Question for Jay: "Do you support LGBT, and you should believe in progressive Christianity"
2:51:43 - Question for Jake: "I didn't say Allahs hand and foot are body parts, I asked if they are counted by division, if they are indentities are each one of them the whole of Allah"
2:53:15 - Question for Jake: "Does solophism hold normative athority to dogmatize and anathemise theology"
2:54:35 - Question for Jake: "Why did Mohammad get Mary (the Mother of Jesus) and Mary (the sister of Moses) confused"
2:55:05 - Question for Jay: "Name 5 books on Jakes position"
2:56:20 - Question for Jake: "Will you debate Sam Shamoun"





Sorry for some spelling errors and things I didn't hear.
I like the part of the debate where Dyer said "It's Dyering time", and Dyered all over the debate.
Note, my timestamps were shadowban*** cause of the word LGTV

Wll done Jay!!!!!We from Ortodox Serbia are proud of you !!!! God bless you and your family!!!!❤