Henry "as the ultimate puppeteer" is so darn true! This podcast is absolutely brilliant, I am loving every minute.

A fascinating conversation between two of our finest experts on Anne Boleyn! 🙌

What a fabulous conversation between two of the kindest Anne Boleyn Experts in the Tudor World.  Cannot wait to receive this book.  Thank you for dispelling so many myths.  Best Wishes for MUCH SUCCESS with it.  It is so deserved.

What an amazing discusion! I've been fascinated with the Tudors since childhood, and I've never heard such in-depth study of Anne's final year. This really gives fantastic context to what was going on. Also, it's interesting to me how that people were blaming Anne for the country's problems -- not unlike what happened to Marie Antoinette 250 years later.

What a fascinating interview about a most intriguing subject!  I will definitely be ordering the book next week and can hardly wait to get it and read it.  Thanks so much, Natalie and Owen, for introducing us to the book!

Have just finished this book -  Fabulously researched with a great understanding of the period and the personalities involved.
A truly important work.

I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast and will definitely be buying your book. Thank you.

Very interesting. I will certainly read your books Natalie.

Wow can't wait for this book. Natalie so knowledgeable and she has researched everything for her book. I was gripped by this interview and u could imagine Henry n Anne on progress visually by both Owen n Natalie brilliantly conducting the interview in awesome way.

Natalie, I love your insight into Anne's situation, your description of how truly alone she was when Henry turned against her really put me in her shoes and gave me such a wave of sympathy for her. I always felt she must have known what she was getting into but then she probably believed that he truly loved her, that he would always protect her and that he would come through in the end, he would save her from the executioner, he'd do the right thing for her and his daughter, she might even have believed this right up to the moment of her death. It's fascinating and heartbreaking, I'm going to have to get your book now!  Loved this, thank you!

Natalie, interesting aspect of Anne’s emotional state. In 2022, we could make the diagnosis of post partum depression. She had fetal losses and that had to deeply affect her.

Great interview thankyou

Excellent conversation, thank you so much for sharing this podcast. I am so glad your research led you to the idea that was always on my mind: that Henry VIII was far from gullible, but rather the opposite, he manipulated all, Cromwell included.
I also agree with your take on the 1536 jousting accident. Some people have been trying to push the idea that it was much more serious than it probably was, that it changed Henry's personality. That is ignoring his behaviour prior to said accident. That is also ignoring the fact that the account of Henry being unconscious for a long time was written by someone based in Italy, not a first hand witness.
Can't wait to read your book Natalie 😊🖖

Brilliant discussion, interview. I cannot wait yo read the book. Its my Christmas to myself. Thank you

These three women (Anne, Catherine, and Mary) and to some extent Jane, have been pitted against each other for centuries because they lived in a patriarchal society where holding a man accountable wasn't an option.

I've always felt so sorry for AB. The pressure that she must have felt must have been immense.

Absolutely fabulous video

Oh, this is a lovely preview of your upcoming book. How wonderful to have the interview being conducted by Dr Emmerson! I'm looking forward to The Book Depository sending out my preordered copy.

Absolutely brilliant interview thank you for sharing your knowledge x

What is the name of the tune  played at the beginning? I love it!