After hearing Rory & Mal speak, I totally believe them...Joe hasn’t responded to nothing they spoke on & kept trying to push that same narrative hes been trying to push..
5:30 This the danger in getting into it with a person like Joe. He’s literally re-writing history as he speaks, re-framing the argument in a way that makes him sound like a better guy than he actually is. He’s putting a new, different spin in the facts. He’s basically saying- I tried to tell Rory and Mal that they were screwing up a good thing, I tried to help them, I tried to get them to come back. They just insisted on being negative and blowing this whole thing up. I just didn’t want to say it because we’re friends and I respect you.. WHAT!!! That’s not what he said before, at all. And that’s not how it played out. Joe fucked up. I won’t be listening to his podcast anymore after this. It feels like being in a toxic relationship where the other person is delusional.