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Why I'm Selling My Exmark Commercial 30" Mower | Toro Turfmaster

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20 Comments

@bazzamow7031 7 years ago

Honda needs to bring out a big mower that has enough power

@juanmanuelmarquez4945 5 years ago

This guy is the one and only person with an honest opinion on the exmark. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS MACHINE. YOU WILL REGRET IT FOREVER!!

@andym1223 6 years ago

The new Turfmaster HDX has supposedly fixed most of the issues you had.

@ncoemparts 9 years ago

I was happier the day I sold my turf master than I was the day I bought it. Every yard has a hill here and I pushed more than it pulled itself. Cut was good and that was the only good about it. I am looking at getting a Bravo 25 currently have 2 hondas and they are absolutely amazing.

@paulwicklund5044 9 years ago

Scagg 48 inch walk behind is the best. used 2 of them for 5 years no problems. never replaced the belts. had the Kowoski motors.

@joshuaruss9152 9 years ago

The problem I have with them is that when there is virtually any moisture at all in the lawn grass will cake really bad on the top of the under moreso than what I ever experienced with a 20 or 21" and certainly moreso than with my 36" and 48". Also, they made the opening of the mower to the bagger attachment way too small so that you often have to clean it out. There simply is too much grass trying to pass through a small area. I like the 30" because they are nice and help to save time on the smaller lawns that you can't get into with a 36".

@nathangant7636 5 years ago (edited)

I've also have several cracked blades on my Toro Timemaster 30. It's important to be very wary of any excessive vibration which could mean one of the blades may be starting to crack from stress. Hairline cracks may be almost invisible to naked eye but will produce considerable vibration when synchro belt is engaged and blades are turning. Once you know your mower, you should be able to detect vibrations if you're paying attention. It think these Toro blades are problematic in their design but they could redesign the blades to increase the elasticity of the carbon steel and reduce brittleness which is contributing to the cracked and broken blades. I'm happy with my Timemaster going on almost 3 years with work in multiple accounts. All cables, pulleys and belts have been replaced. All in all, it's a heavy beast and can do commercial work but be prepared for downtimes for periodic maintenance. Everything can be DIY if you have mechanical ability. But don't put off the essential inspections and regular maintenance. Pay attention to vibrations which means something is out of balance.

I've actually heard of one roadside fatality from a commercial pull-behind rotary mower breaking off one of its blades and hitting a passerby in the head and killing him. Freak accident in that case.

@JH-iw4ui 8 years ago

I can replace the drive belt and the other one that’s on that pulley in 10 minutes. It’s very easy. But, I agree they tend to wear out quickly.

@mccool24 7 years ago

I’ve been wanting one of these but refuse to spend a thousand dollars on something literally everyone has problems with. Seems like such a simple concept for a lawn mower manufacturer.

@SirTannerah 6 years ago

an exmark owner here, all belts have the same issue if you Jam the levers real fast you ware out the belts faster, if you ease the levers and be a little mindful the belts can last a good while. I'm still on my original factory belts 3 years later. don't get me wrong the mowers have their issues, but it has been a damn good mower.

@b20em1 9 years ago

I sold both of mine always was breaking the transmission cable. They were both awesome for about 6 months after that they were junk. These are a bad investment and many people get sucked into buying them. Not to mention a pain to work on.

@31acruz 1 year ago

To make belts last longer SPRAY THEM WITH ARMOR ALL or any plastic protectant. I have used the same belts for 11 years on my TORO Time master.

@glennevitt5250 6 years ago

Man thank you for this information I was looking at the 30in

@dochutto 8 years ago

A lawn care friend of mine gave me an EX mark 26 inch cut, worked fine for two years in my st Augustine grass then all hell broke loose
had to take it to an Ex Mark dealer and spent $327 to fix it. Replace idler pully and belts, plus a new pull starter. The engine is great, a
kiwasaki with oil filter. Thanks for saving me 1800 dollars, I was preparing to buy a 30 inch. A very good video.

@ericowens964 9 years ago

I've sold these in our store for three years. Once I learned to educate my customers on what they were buying I eliminated 99 percent of my complaints. These units are not, nor were they ever meant to be or replace, a wide area walk behind that cost $3,500. I tell every prospective buyer this sentence: 'This mower is for mowing Sister Bertha's nice Saint Agusutine grass but it's not for mowing Sister Bertha's alley behind her house.' Also of note; they hate sandy conditions.

If you are interested in one of these mowers keep the following in mind:
1. They require periodical adjustments. One of which will have to be made within the first two weeks of ownership.
2. They do not do well in high grass. The same engine is on the 21" Commercial Toro. You can't add nine mower inches of cutting swath and think it will have the same power as the 21".
3. They are heavy. This isn't something to put in and out of the back of a pickup truck all day long.
4. Since the blades are timed they are very unforgiving when hitting an object. I tell a customer: 'Hit anything with this and just bring me 200.00 for me to fix it.'
5. I keep hearing about transmission issues but rarely ever see the issue in our store.
6. The cut really clean, mulch really well and bag even better.
7. It is not a poor mans 32" T-Bar Wide Area Walk Behind. It's not even close to the same machine.

Once I communicate this info to the customer I let them make up their own mind whether the mower is for them or not. Great machine when used properly.

@eddiereyna2998 6 years ago

Hope ya have looked into a 36” stand on mowers . Wright , Gravely & John Deere all make great stand on mowers . The fixed decks are cheaper but the floating decks make more sense and can handle the abuse of commercial applications such as jumping over curbs lol .
We used one during our South Texas Coastal properties from Whataburger and our grocery king HEB properties.
We had John Deere and they are built like tanks .

@fixt100 9 years ago

i have an hrx i love it but if you can find an "HRB215" buy it, it weighs 50lbs and has the poly deck easy to lift when needed, also has the old style heavy duty honda 5hp engine runs forever.

@OscarOrod 9 years ago

yes, the 21 inch Honda commercial is the best small walk behind.

@Bust776 9 years ago

Thank you for sharing. Sounds like they need to listen to their consumers and fix their problems.

@ericdelude722 5 years ago

We use this mower to cut small yards that the owners don’t want the zero turns on or to get into a small gate...they do a nice job but a smaller mower is almost just as nice. The lines are the yard do look nice but it is a bitch to turn in a small area