To those who draw false conclusions from this tape: Feldman actually was one of the most witty people I ever met. (Even from a Hegelian point of view as Heinz Klaus Metzger, who adored Feldman, would have told you). It is important to realise that at that point he was very tired of quick wise-cracking as demonstrated by the interviewer who constantly interrupts him. He hated stereotypes and kept reflecting on art from all sorts of angles. Later it would even include nomadic rugs which he studied in-depth. Frequently he mentioned the heated discussions with his teacher Stefan Wolpe earlier in his life. Conversations with Rothko or Guston certainly introduced a degree of hesitancy, of questioning a standardised 'academic' discourse. That's also what he made responsible for the decline of Boulez and Stockhausen who were stuck in those schemes.