Pourquoi des sociétés S’EFFONDRENT et d’autres DOMINENT LE MONDE ? – Jared Diamond
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▶ Jared Diamond is an evolutionary biologist, geographer, and professor at UCLA. His work combines biology, ecology, history, and geography, seeking to understand the long-term trajectories of human societies. He gained worldwide recognition with the publication of works such as "Guns, Germs, and Steel" and "Collapse," in which he analyzes the material origins of power disparities between civilizations and the reasons for the collapse of certain civilizations. In this interview, conducted by Oliver Berruyer for Elucid, Jared Diamond presents his fundamental theories, free from moralistic or simplistic arguments. He helps us answer the following question: why have some peoples accumulated power, technologies, and lasting institutions while others have stagnated or disappeared?
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Presenter: Olivier Berruyer
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Editor: Xavier de Capèle
Translator: Paul Fernandez Mateo
Voice Actor: David Sighicelli
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Summary:
00:00:00 - Uneven Geographic Development
00:16:48 - The Role of Animal Domestication
00:21:02 - The Influence of Continental Orientation
00:24:51 - The Development of Writing
00:27:40 - Population density and contact between peoples
00:35:54 - The causes of collapses
00:53:25 - Japan: an example of a society that survived its shocks
00:57:49 - Where do bad decisions come from?
01:04:18 - The tools of psychiatry to understand the resilience of nations
01:15:09 - The major dangers today
01:21:25 - Can a nation reform itself without having experienced shocks?
01:23:57 - Final question
20 Comments
mais il a changé son interprétation depuis...
car, à l’époque, il écrivait que les Anasazis avaient disparu car ils n’avaient pas respectè leur environnement et l’avaient détruit...
maintenant il dit que c’était du à une sécheresse extraordinaire dont ils n’étaient pas responsables...
comme quoi les "interprétations" ne sont que des interprétations qui peuvent changer...
et ne sont donc pas "raison". 🙂
La dernière phrase est très symptomatique du dilemme de l’intellectuel dans notre société bourgeoise : « lisez mon livre » reste sa principale préoccupation. C’est touchant, ridicule et pourtant ça montre bien les limites propres aux intellectuels, survivre, rester compatible avec ceux qui vous nourrissent, ne pas dépasser ce que l’idéologie dominante ne saurait accepter sous peine d’être disqualifié.
Comme souvent dans ce type d’approche globale on pourra remettre en question certaines affirmations qui ont été par ailleurs discutées par certains scientifiques (Pasques etc)
Mais ce n’est pas l’essentiel.
Sur la période contemporaine il est gêné aux entournures, c’est le moins qu’on puisse dire. Il fait totalement l’impasse sur ce qui est systémique dans le capitalisme pour en rester à une critique bien convenue et qui ne saurait lui être reprochée: le réchauffement climatique, les pandémies, la pénurie de ressources, les bombes nucléaires… on reste dans les lieux communs sans faire aucun lien entre ces 4 facteurs. Il embraye de la même manière sur « le terrorisme », présenté aimablement comme une conséquence de l’idée saugrenue d’aller envahir Irak, Afghanistan etc mais là encore sans jamais évoquer la nature propre à l’impérialisme.
Bref, on reste sur sa faim, mais ça peut servir de base pour commencer à réfléchir.
Bravo
Pourquoi des sociétés S’EFFONDRENT et d’autres DOMINENT LE MONDE ? – Jared Diamond
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▶ Jared Diamond is an evolutionary biologist, geographer, and professor at UCLA. His work combines biology, ecology, history, and geography, seeking to understand the long-term trajectories of human societies. He gained worldwide recognition with the publication of works such as "Guns, Germs, and Steel" and "Collapse," in which he analyzes the material origins of power disparities between civilizations and the reasons for the collapse of certain civilizations. In this interview, conducted by Oliver Berruyer for Elucid, Jared Diamond presents his fundamental theories, free from moralistic or simplistic arguments. He helps us answer the following question: why have some peoples accumulated power, technologies, and lasting institutions while others have stagnated or disappeared?
👉 To find additional sources, click here: https://elucid.media/?p=93353
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Presenter: Olivier Berruyer
Producer: Carla Costantini
Editor: Xavier de Capèle
Translator: Paul Fernandez Mateo
Voice Actor: David Sighicelli
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Summary:
00:00:00 - Uneven Geographic Development
00:16:48 - The Role of Animal Domestication
00:21:02 - The Influence of Continental Orientation
00:24:51 - The Development of Writing
00:27:40 - Population density and contact between peoples
00:35:54 - The causes of collapses
00:53:25 - Japan: an example of a society that survived its shocks
00:57:49 - Where do bad decisions come from?
01:04:18 - The tools of psychiatry to understand the resilience of nations
01:15:09 - The major dangers today
01:21:25 - Can a nation reform itself without having experienced shocks?
01:23:57 - Final question
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