What happens when leaving is no longer a choice—but something you must do to survive?
In this episode, Gabi sits down with Suri, founder of After the Burn, for an honest conversation about religious trauma, burnout, shame, autonomy, and the painful cost of leaving a high-control religious environment.
Suri shares her experience leaving the Ultra Orthodox community of Lakewood, New Jersey, of going from therapist to patient, entering residential treatment, and gradually recognizing the abuse and control surrounding her. She discusses the stigma that keeps people silent, the impact of shunning on families, and why leaving a religious community is often far more complicated than outsiders understand.
Together, Suri and Gabi explore the difficult process of rebuilding an identity after leaving, questioning long-held beliefs, navigating spirituality and mental health, and reclaiming personal autonomy. They also discuss psychedelic-assisted healing, including ketamine, as well as parenting, criticism, shame exposure, and what recovery can look like after religious burnout.
This conversation is for anyone who has questioned their faith, experienced religious trauma, left a high-control community, or struggled to rediscover who they are outside of inherited expectations.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Meet Suri and Gabi
00:35 Therapist Turned Patient
02:33 Why She Had to Leave
05:15 Stigma and Silence
06:14 Religious Abuse Example
09:16 Women and Burnout
13:47 Truman Show Reality
18:56 Truth Seeking and Labels
23:53 The Cost of Leaving
28:33 Faith and Mental Health
33:59 Autonomy and Control
35:23 Shunning and Family
40:01 How Leaving Unfolded
42:08 Leaving to Survive
43:35 The Reality of Residential Treatment
44:17 Seeing the Abuse Clearly
45:56 Rebuilding Identity and Beliefs
47:12 Why People Really Leave
50:03 Spirituality After Leaving
58:22 Ketamine and Psychedelic Healing
1:02:37 Religious Trauma and After the Burn
1:09:01 Shame, Exposure, and Freedom
1:16:43 Handling Criticism and Parenting
1:22:06 Suri’s Rooftop Message on Burnout
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What happens when leaving is no longer a choice—but something you must do to survive?
In this episode, Gabi sits down with Suri, founder of After the Burn, for an honest conversation about religious trauma, burnout, shame, autonomy, and the painful cost of leaving a high-control religious environment.
Suri shares her experience leaving the Ultra Orthodox community of Lakewood, New Jersey, of going from therapist to patient, entering residential treatment, and gradually recognizing the abuse and control surrounding her. She discusses the stigma that keeps people silent, the impact of shunning on families, and why leaving a religious community is often far more complicated than outsiders understand.
Together, Suri and Gabi explore the difficult process of rebuilding an identity after leaving, questioning long-held beliefs, navigating spirituality and mental health, and reclaiming personal autonomy. They also discuss psychedelic-assisted healing, including ketamine, as well as parenting, criticism, shame exposure, and what recovery can look like after religious burnout.
This conversation is for anyone who has questioned their faith, experienced religious trauma, left a high-control community, or struggled to rediscover who they are outside of inherited expectations.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Meet Suri and Gabi
00:35 Therapist Turned Patient
02:33 Why She Had to Leave
05:15 Stigma and Silence
06:14 Religious Abuse Example
09:16 Women and Burnout
13:47 Truman Show Reality
18:56 Truth Seeking and Labels
23:53 The Cost of Leaving
28:33 Faith and Mental Health
33:59 Autonomy and Control
35:23 Shunning and Family
40:01 How Leaving Unfolded
42:08 Leaving to Survive
43:35 The Reality of Residential Treatment
44:17 Seeing the Abuse Clearly
45:56 Rebuilding Identity and Beliefs
47:12 Why People Really Leave
50:03 Spirituality After Leaving
58:22 Ketamine and Psychedelic Healing
1:02:37 Religious Trauma and After the Burn
1:09:01 Shame, Exposure, and Freedom
1:16:43 Handling Criticism and Parenting
1:22:06 Suri’s Rooftop Message on Burnout
If this conversation resonates with you, share it with someone who may need to hear it and subscribe for more honest discussions about identity, mental health, faith, healing, and personal freedom.
Connect with Suri!
Instagram
Instagram: aftertheburnco
Website
aftertheburn.co
Connect with Gabi!
Instagram - Instagram: journey_with_gabi
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2SoydqN...
Book a session!
The Men's Therapy Studio
https://themenstherapystudio.com/
#ReligiousTrauma #Burnout #FaithDeconstruction
Own dogs and pets and fit in the community I think the issue here is too much was put on her. She raises good points unfortunately she made some mistakes cause she was lost in her pain. A Jewish mother shouldn’t have to work full time and have endless amount of children if you can’t handle it you need to be clear and if your Rav doesn’t understand find a Rav who does. Good luck