Tell me more Naruto stereotypes

It's kinda tragic if you think about it because Rock Lee and Guy both lose their biggest fights, proving they were wrong about working hard.

Neji was right and Naruto was an actual villian for gaslighting him so hard.

“Hardwork beats natural talent” has been debunked by the series so many times it’s hilarious. There are a few really strong characters like Guy and Adult Sakura that got their powers purely due to hard work, but all of the God tiers didn’t. Naruto and Sasuke worked hard at first but then they were just gifted god powers because they were reincarnated demi gods. Madara and Hashirama worked for their powers but they couldn’t get them without being reincarnated demi gods as well.

Doctor said: "After this fight against gaara, lee will never be a ninja anymore." well he was right

I think when people say “Shippuden became like DBZ” it’s less about strategy not being used. The complaint is more about over the top abilities. For example, somebody using water to make a water dragon doesn’t feel out of place. You get to Shippuden and you got characters dropping meteors or having hax that can only be countered by uber top tier characters. Nagato is the best example of this. Think about when he returns during the war. He is revived by a hax ability that makes him unkillable by normal means, then has to be haxed by Itachi to be defeated, Itachi had to hax Naruto with a hax that isn’t even his own to hax himself. Strategy only really applies to characters who have the hax to counter whatever hax they are facing. Not to mention, anyone who thinks there wasn’t strategy in Dragon Ball clearly didn’t pay attention. Just because characters don’t have inner dialogue about their strategy doesn’t mean there is no strategy.

I think you misunderstand the criticism that Naruto has become more about Dragon Ball Z power levels as opposed to skilled fights. I can't speak for everyone, but my criticism to that end has always been that part 1 was more grounded. The characters felt and were portrayed as normal humans that could SOMETIMES shoot magic. The magic wasn't something they could just spam like a water gun in the ocean, it was something they used sparingly, so every time you saw a new one it was exciting and had tension. Early Shipuuden feels similar to P1, but after the pain fight it's just downhill. Theoretically, a child could kill a Jonin in P1 because it was their skill that separated them from genin, not their physical durability, which is why Zabuza was scared of a kunai thrown by a fresh genin. By the end, half the cast is tanking nuclear blasts. Jutsus that used to be really lethal just seem like something you throw as a minor inconvenience and not to actually get a killing blow.

Hard work not beating natural talent really sends out the message "If you're not gifted, you're nothing and whatever you do also means nothing"

My dad read the manga of naruto with me week to week up until the end while i was in highschool. He even keeps up with boruto, which i dont. He's the best dad in the world

“Hardwork beats natural talent”  no Hashiram cells beat everything in Naruto including the story plot points lol

I think disliking increasing power levels is valid and perfectly fine. It gets very hard to relate to fights in later part of shippuuden exactly because they are so big in scale that suspension of disbelief may just refuse to work in some people. Generally I believe that grounded fights are by default better if you're supposed to care about something other than the spectacle of it

Wizards disguising as ninjas.

The characters act less like shinobis and more like wizards in Naruto shippuden. Wizards are cool too though.

For the second point I don’t think the misconception is as much that it was just shooting the biggest lasers, but more so than they just stopped being ninjas and became soldiers. There’s very few covert missions and focusing on gathering intel and acting away from the public eye was all but abandoned

I think the hard work vs talent as a theme comes down to the misconception of naruto being untalented, at the start of the series naruto was seemingly a hack but really he just lacked a proper mentor

"Boruto is better than Naruto" and "this filler flashback episode of Boruto is the best episode ever"

Yeah I read this in many Boruto comment sections. Somehow they like an episode that adds nothing to the story more than canon material but somehow think it's better than Naruto.

If you want to watch a faster pace Naruto you need to watch the ocean cut of it. A people named “ocean” made a cut of Naruto where you can binge watch it. It cuts out all fillers, cuts out alot of flashbacks you have already seen. Episodes are an hour long  and is actually well put together.

I don’t know if stereotype is the right term to use, why not just say misconceptions

15:00 it's explained that Minato designed the seal so that Kurama's chakra would mix over the years with Naruto's.
Also it's very gary stuey to suddenly just dominate an S class level jutsu, without even trying once, when he couldn't even do the most basic one to begin with.

The problem is not that they will use giant things like Naruto did against Gara in the chunin exams, but that they were an exception, with well-defined costs and not something regular that Don Pepe also had.

An example of this is Hashirama's cells that later in the work literally made Jutsus who had costs no longer had them, or now because of Hashirama's cells, the cost  is so minuscule that it is no longer taken into account.

And have a little shame on that face.
  You can't compare Kakashi and Zabuza finger dancing for 3 pages to make the water dragon, which damaged a considerable part of the forest but did not break the entire forest when it hit Zabuza.

With Naruto ,who can literally create a chakra mecha in a matter of seconds and wipe out a continent.