"If the ADC is allowed to have fun, no one else will, that's why you kill them on sight and make them spend the game in grayscale"
And that's why I don't play ADC anymore.

the problem with adc was never the enemy team focusing on them. That's a given. The issue is adcs need help to survive early, and your teammates usually ignore you. Especially now when riot made the game more fast paced, giving every champion a gap closer ability, playing adc in lower-mid elos by yourself is almost impossible to have fun.

Whats weird is that in Dota2, there are a few marksman adcs (pos1), but not many.
In fact, 80% of them are melees.
Most of them have a mobility spell to get on top of you, but it's mostly a "do these heroes scale hard with items".
As someone who was high elo in both games (Masters EUW, if you count that as high enough to comment) it has baffled me how entitled marksman players are about their lane.

Toplaners => Marksman, Bruisers, Fighters, Tanks,
Junglers => Everything
Midlane => Mages, Assassins, Fighters
Support => Enchanter, Tank engage, Wardens
Adc => Marksman

That's what they think, it's baffling.
Assassins are super meta right now in midlane AND jungle, with high threat engage supports.
It's a rough time to be a control mage mid player, the meta champs counter you.

The reason why ADC players don't have much macro /agency, is because the pick the marksman class which can't initiate anything themselves.
If you pick that class, then shut the f up, scale, and do your job in that 20 minute teamfight.
Mages have CDs (that ADC players dont track), i use my spells, then i have my dick in my hands for the next 6 seconds, appreciate your advantages!
I dont thnk ADC is a bad role, its just Marksman players expectation of the role and its responsibilities, is not what the role is.

This is why I swapped from adc to support. I usually understand what my adc wants to do, and I get to not want to gouge my eyes out from being useless or getting one shot by the assassin.

maybe the problem is fact that modern league is trying to keep old design choices from back when moba games were warcraft 3 mods, current design philosophy of "fair skill based champions" just cannot support pve scaling gameplay. although it would've worked if all of the economic interactions weren't gutted as they're, compared to dota or deadlock.

Just dont get hit.

Me with my 550 range ADC watching pantheon from away the dame screen because his stun has more range than me

I am surprised you only barely mentioned the thing that I would consider the most critical for understanding why adcs are the way they are. Marksmen as a class are TERRIBLE at creating fight to fight varience.

It is very important for the longevity of the game that even the same fight can play out multiple different ways even with the same people playing. There are a lot of things contributing to that, but the most obvious is the game's abundance of skillshots. A blitz hook can either hit or miss which creates massively different game states.

A marksman's main source of power is a very low cooldown, ranged, point and click autoattack. Compared to other classes this is extremely low variance (aka. very consistent). And this informs a lot of why they are the way they are.

"Why can most marksmen only be played bot?" - Because it's a duo lane, the second lane partner massively increases fight variance.
"Why can't marksmen be self sufficient?" - They would be too consistent in winning/losing, making those fights and in turn entire games more boring
"Why are marksmen hyperscalers?" - early game is already the least variant phase of the game (before stuff like gold/xp differences can manifest), so having them be weak then leaves the focus on champions that actually create interesting fights.

And yeah they can be more centralizing in late game teamfights, and that's ok, because a fight with 10 people in it (with a whole game's worth of accumulated variance) will never have the problem of feeling samey.

As a former jungle main turned adc (Peaked diamond this season Yay!) I agree the role is aids and the champions are aids. If kindred bot was viable I would be playing it

But holy shit making the entire enemy explode while dodging all their shit is a high I don't think I can quit anymore.

last vid didnt get me to sub but this one did. well earned

11:39 Four question marks too, chef's kiss

I have to commend your clip selection for this video, they add credibility to your arguments.

Shows the clip with the only good ADC item RIP GALEFORCE.

Case closed. ADC is here to stay 👍👌

3:35 unexpected Zedaph clip

So…I have opinions. As it was explained to me by my coach, the ADC is your team’s insurance policy - you may not always need them, but you can rely on them when you do.

Marksmen, as a class, are the purest trade of solid fundamentals and raw mechanics for power. Auto attacks are powerful because they cannot miss their target (save player error) and are not bound to ability cooldowns. And while marksmen suffer the nail pulling drawback known as the ranged tax, that range makes their damage that much safer, as they aren’t forced to commit as a Yasuo would have to. This creates the reliability the class is known for.

This also explains why teams are generally willing to throw so many resources towards their ADC - a reliable outcome. Most tend to focus on farming hard until the late game (Yunara, Xayah, vayne, etc) to guarantee that at least one player has the dps to cut through even the toughest of teams, because nothing sucks more than a Mundo that goes where he pleases. But even early focused champions like Lucian, Draven, and Caitlyn are used as an insurance for the mid game, since their early item spikes are more than most champions can handle.

While I can understand the frustrations of the archetype, marksmen are a well considered one. And while it can feel very feast or famine, the best players know that consistency is the goal, and playing for that reaps massive rewards.

Great video is always! I was wondering if you're going to make a video like this for each class.

Its goes in the square hole ,man. 😂😂😂

The main issue I feel with adcs is that their entire gimmick is to sacrifice everything for damage, but they also sacrifice everything that allows them to do damage. They have so little durability that literally anything can oneshot them regardless of build which isnt helped by riot powercreeping everyones damage.
Their items are incredibly stale and onedimensional, either they give good stats or give moderately bad utility, they never give util and stats, and adcs dont have the base stats or scalings to afford actual utility items that dont have high damage stats because then they will deal less damage than bruisers or tank which can use those items without damage penalties since these have the base stats.
Their abilities suck, most forms of steroid abilities bring your champion from 100% to like 125%, adcs go from 50% to 90%. So the stats are good but they dont get a buff they just get closer to what other champions start at.
They are glass cannons and everyone says that you just shouldnt get hit. They have no or one movement ability thats always bound to an insanely long cooldown, usually sucks or is bound to some form of condition so they dont have movement options, their base MS is also slower than any other character in the roster bar for enchanters. So the counter to an adc is to literally walk away from them since they cant chase you. Or just walk up to them since they cant run away either, if they cant kill you before you approach you win. Kiting is cool but you still need to stand still for a short time even if you cancel the animation frame perfectly so your actual movespeed is even lower than what is listed because you have to stop in between. They also dont have the range to compete with mages and their abilities are expensive so they cant spam them like mages do.
They sacrifice any form of influence of the game, fights, lanes anything just for maybe a bit more damage than the rest. Yes they do massive damage against squishies but an assassin does that too, tanks take barely any damage due to how armorscaling works and armor items are generally stupidly cost effective. There are so many items designed specifically to fuck over an adc, randuins omen to make your crits worthless, frozen heart to make your attack speed worthless, deaths dance to allow you to facetank their damage until you oneshot them, thornmail to reflect damage and also great utility item overall, iceborn so they really cant get away if you get to them. And then there are abilities, teemo Q, jax E, nasus W, etc. There is nothing like this against mages, nothing against assassins.
Thats the issue, adcs are so easy to shut down, have no influence on the game, require a team to perfectly cover for them and even then they just do okay damage for lategame damage classes.
Meanwhile we have shit like yone or yasuo who get literally everything for free. You are melee so your stats are already better and your items are more efficient, you only need two crit items so you can get away with buying a defensive item or two, you have great base MS, yone has his E and yasuo can infinitely dash as long as a wave exists, yasuo has a shield that nullifies any ranged attack, both have CC to either defend thenselves or lock someone down, yasuo gets free armorpen from ult, yone gets free hybrid damage, their ults can potentially CC the entire team and do massive damage and both have an ability that more than doubles their DPS from autoattacks because you can just spam Q off CD. And they dont use mana too. Thats the issue. That discrepancy is what everyone assumes is fine because in proplay they funnel their adcs and perfectly peel them. So the flaws just dont show. But they are still there

Ok I think this is a pretty fair video but 2 of the points he makes are not the strongest.

Range is ADC's biggest strength, yes absolutely, but there are no shortage of ways for gap closing nowadays in the league roster, or getting pinged by the artillery mage bot trend that's caught on.

Second, on the mages have to land abilities, you can say I'm bias, but I think mages having to land abilities is not inherently harder than the need to space inch perfectly and glide. I would honestly say the opposite is true and that landing abilities and skill shots is easier than gliding for multiple reasons.

Another great video man, ADC has some of the most fun champs in the game, being able to one shot a Mundo as full AP varus is a thing I hope everyone can enjoy one day.