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Chris Tarbell: FBI Agent Who Took Down Silk Road | Lex Fridman Podcast #340

Lex Fridman

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Chris Tarbell is a former FBI special agent and cybercrime investigation specialist who brought down Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road, and Hector Monsegur (aka Sabu) of LulzSec and Anonymous. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:16 - Silk Road
11:39 - Mass surveillance
15:50 - Operation Onion Peeler
21:06 - Hacker Avunit
31:56 - Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road
44:39 - Edward Snowden
46:44 - NSA surveillance
58:51 - Silk Road murders
1:07:37 - Dark web
1:11:39 - Ross Ulbricht's arrest
1:19:37 - Aaron Swartz
1:22:55 - Donald Trump and the Mar-a-Lago raid
1:26:01 - Tech companies and censorship
1:35:00 - War in Ukraine
1:38:58 - Anonymous and LulzSec
1:49:10 - FBI
1:52:11 - Personal threats
1:57:57 - Hector Monsegur a.k.a Sabu
2:11:07 - Cyber attack threats against civilians
2:27:55 - Most secure operating system
2:31:44 - Cyber war
2:39:38 - Advice for young people
2:44:50 - FBI's credibility
2:53:21 - Love

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20 Comments

@lexfridman Creator 3 years ago Pinned

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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- InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off
- ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free
- BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off
- Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex to get 25% off premium
1:16 - Silk Road
11:39 - Mass surveillance
15:50 - Operation Onion Peeler
21:06 - Hacker Avunit
31:56 - Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road
44:39 - Edward Snowden
46:44 - NSA surveillance
58:51 - Silk Road murders
1:07:37 - Dark web
1:11:39 - Ross Ulbricht's arrest
1:19:37 - Aaron Swartz
1:22:55 - Donald Trump and the Mar-a-Lago raid
1:26:01 - Tech companies and censorship
1:35:00 - War in Ukraine
1:38:58 - Anonymous and LulzSec
1:49:10 - FBI
1:52:11 - Personal threats
1:57:57 - Hector Monsegur a.k.a Sabu
2:11:07 - Cyber attack threats against civilians
2:27:55 - Most secure operating system
2:31:44 - Cyber war
2:39:38 - Advice for young people
2:44:50 - FBI's credibility
2:53:21 - Love

@noname-zn4pp 3 years ago

The main takeaway from Lex interviewing people from CIA/FBI is that there is no such thing as a former CIA/FBI person.

@Byron-cz7cp 1 year ago

Who's here after Ross Ulbricht got pardoned?

@andreikulchik8280 3 years ago

Lex, a computer scientist, pretending not to know what an IP address is for the sake of clarification for the audience is hilarious 😂

@roverdover4449 3 years ago

The story about taking down Silk Road went right from getting the server files from Iceland to having DPR in custody. They skipped like, everything...

@vstumpy 3 years ago

a podcast with Ross Ulbrich would be insane!

@thewoogs 3 years ago

"Rules of being a whistleblower" is such a dystopic phrase

@ChrisEckeard 3 years ago (edited)

I love how the subject is that Snowden didn't follow the rules when he actually exposed the government for not following the rules.

@matthewnewton3872 1 year ago

Anyone else here after Ross got pardoned?

@lexfridman Creator 3 years ago

As always, I really appreciate the comments here. I read them and learn from them. I hope to talk to other side, including Ross Ulbricht himself. If I make mistakes, I will improve. In general, I'll talk to everyone, with empathy & compassion. I'll be attacked for this, but I won't give up. Love you all.

@Higgs666 3 years ago

A while back, the FBI busted a CP distributer that was using Tor. The defense lawyer requested discovery on how his client was identified, and the FBI dropped all charges. They have a way around Tor and are totally unwilling to let the public know about it.

@JohnDoe-wp1dq 3 years ago

For a former government employee that wants total government control without any accountability he sure repeats "I'm not for big government" a lot.

@venus334 2 years ago

One of My favorite episodes.. Love everything about it.

The opening up at the end, dhamm.

Lex knows how to make his guests feel welcomed & loved

@TripHop- 3 years ago

I like how whenever Lex asks him to steelman the other side, he says sure but just says some random stuff thats still defending his side lol

@donny_doyle 3 years ago

I work as a metal worker, welding, grinding, painting, etc, and wear protective gear 75% of my work day. This enables me to listen to Lex interviews in their entirety, and this was tremendous. 3 hours passed as if in a moment. Interview concludes, shut down the drill press, wash up a go home. Pretty good day, inspite of the frightening cyber apocalypse about to befall mankind! Lex + guest= good times... ✌🏻

@Olderthanyoda420 3 years ago

I wish there was a discussion about the corrupt FBI agents indicted with the Ross Ulbricht case. They got away with a slap on their hands whilst doing pretty horrible things.

@benhefner2024 2 years ago

Wow I love the Amazing flow of dialogue back and forth , the small laughter agreements over tangents is really refreshing to see, like truely very old friends it’s awesome

@aaronbazil 3 years ago

Ah, Two FBI Agents having a conversation. This is gonna be fun 😀

@erictaylor4937 3 years ago

Lex better follow this up with an interview of Ross

@RightsAreForce 3 years ago

This guy:

“We can’t let people communicate and trade freely without government surveillance. We must monitor everything you buy and who you talk to and what you say.”