This is the psychic scream of all 10 Shadow Priests.

Kick sucks, utility sucks, but nothing annoys me more than a gap between burst windows. Not only it's absurd long compared to most high tier dps classes, you're also effectively afk outside of the window.

I genuinely don't understand the point of the changes we received this tier. They amount to nothing, and fix none of our issues. How are we gonna have the same issues as last tier after a mini rework? Maddening

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I was just thinking about making a video on all this too. Guess I don't need to now, haha.

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they should let us talent out of the silence effect of silence for -10s on the CD or something having a full casting lockout is not good in pve unless they want to add casters that can cast multiple schools of magic

Give us a talent that makes Silence a 15-18 second CD, but no longer blanket silences. Doesn't make it OP in PvP, and gives us the benefit of a short interrupt range other than Shaman that already have more benefits to the group than us. That entirely fixes the kick issue.
Regarding Psychic Scream, I've 100% feared Undead mobs out in the world before, maybe that was an oversight on that particular mob(s), who knows? But for M+, it should work on any mob. It felt so bad in Windrunner last season knowing you're completely useless as you watch casts go off, and now KR. A talent idea is to give the mob x% reduced damage for x second after being feared. Thematically it makes sense, and gives us a small bit of utility for a large pull on the tank, or even give it a 1 sec silence when the fear ends which also kinda makes sense, would also be fairly unique. Or, return Mind Bomb as a talent that replaces Psychic Scream, giving us a short AoE stun.

Last season I pushed solo Aff lock to 4070 and stopped.

This season I swaped to Spriest for raid but wanted to push M+. I've went to 3600 very early and was top 20 spriest early but now I swaped to Monk for M+ and I'm 3890 solo.

I think the main problem with Spriest is not only low output DPS wise but the scream is terrible as you need to go melee and at best this works as an AoE interrupt rather than actual CC. As Monk I can dispel all poisons and snare effects which leaves few debuffs to dispel by the healer.

This season Lock damage is insane overall in M+ but they aren't considered meta because they don't bring much. I think Spriest would need same levels of damage to be considered good but if that would happen Spriest would dominate the raid.

I think it's fair to assume that Spriest is tuned around raid and even there it's only good for prog as with more ilvs all adds die within 5s of spawning.

I got to 3200 rating this season, all with my own keys. Most will not invite us. Another thing is the damage. If I have to move for purposely bad rng, parse is over. Same with having to heal myself because for some reason people get topped off while I'm wrecked. Also going to interrupt when someone else does, then getting blamed for not interrupting. I interrupt on cd and fear. Oh well. Got a decent rating and I'm done with it. Just sticking to 10s for the vault.

Silience Talent node: You choose either Silience or "interrupt' with lower cd. I remember that in Dragonflight S2 our dmg was op ye but mostly we were meta because of short Mass Dispell cd and a Mind Sooth routes. So how about those utility? Let us MD party again in crutial moments more often  and provide a alternate routes like rogues with Shroud. For that dungeons needs to be designed a bit differently thou. WYT?

All right, but for me the worst thing of Shadow Is that for playing well and do a lot damage you must have a super concetration Always. You must stay alive, do mech, execute rotation at max, Always look a dots. And of you fail some thing your DPS goes down Always ever and never. My second pg Is a lock... I start ti play lock in this season and some times i do bad rotation cap the shards and other shits and my DPS stay High Always  .... If i play some thing wrong with Shadow Priest ma DPS goes down very most...Is frustrating

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The problem with our utility is twofold. One it’s very niche and rarely useful. Two, when it is useful it’s the most game breaking thing so it has to get nerfed. Perfect example is MD going to 2 mins from 45 sec. In exodia comps we were never brought for our utility, we were a complete liability even then. But the bursting affix could be MD’ed which made exodia even more OP as a group. In classic blizzard fashion, these tuning knobs never get readjusted after the thing that caused it no longer exist so we are stuck with a dumpy ass MD until something very game breaking in the other direction takes place. In the case of MD, probably never

Damage tuning, outside of this season, is usually one of blizzards strong suits. But the utility and survivability spread across the top and bottom classes is mind boggling. I’ve been a ride or die priest since I started playing in wrath but man it gets real fucking old having the worst CC, the lowest mobility, and bottom 5-10 survivability.

kinda crazy how spriest is bad in retail and looking bad (currently) in forever lol

I love shadowpriest, but this season for M+, I started playing ret pal and now I'm asking myself: why would I play SP, you know, setting up dots one by one, a 2min cd, with a poor utility toolkit etc, when I can just press avenging wrath, do more damage spamming divine tempest, AND have more utilities in my toolkit.
Like I love SP, but this is getting rough.

rework the aoe stop change that made casters go back to instantly spam their bolt after a stop.

Are we expecting potential tuning this season still? Or are we surrendering until next season ?

I agree with all of those...
silence should be normal kick with PVP upgrade and increased CD
Priest, should be able to dispell everything. I mean lore accurate we are THE healer, so how come we cannot do anything about curse or poison?? that is simply blashpemy
also the fact that as ranged you have only lackluster CC for which you have to be in melee... on a class which is called wheelchair

and even if all the above points would be fixed, we still might not be META anyway...

agree on all of it. compensate pls