Never watched this channel before, the chemistry between these two is amazing. Fun to see people just laughing and having fun on their bikes

Measuring off the ground is wrong ,measure centre of crank spindle/axle to top of bars

I'm 6'5" and have just started running 70mm rise bars. After decades of riding bikes with much lower front ends, it feels like I've suddenly found perfection and I definitely won't be going back to low rise bars. The only negative I could find was steep climbing but descending was a revelation. Fwiw I'm also running quite a few stem spacers and 50mm DMR Defy stem.

Arm length doesn't enter the discussion often enough.

I am 6 ft 2 inches tall and went from a 30 ml riser bar to a 50 ml riser bar and I'm now at a 76 ml riser bar and I love it. I feel much more in control and it is definitely easier on my back. I will not be going back and I'm trying to recommend my friends try it but they all think I'm cuckoo.

I had 15mm rise bars on my last bike and always felt hunched over the front so when I was building up my new bike I put 38mm rise bars on it and I much prefer them!

This makes me rethink EVERYTHING

The Heckler may be my most favorite mountain bike I’ve ever ridden. Great video by the way.

I think the conclusion might be: height doesn't really matter, it's more what you're used to.

6'3" and run a 115cm bar height from the ground on all 3x of my bikes with 18mm stem. Central upright position is key for comfort and weight balance.

I'm 6'2" and run my bars as low as possible with no spacers beneath the stem.
Tried running higher bars but it just feels wrong and causes me a lot of triceps pain.
But I do have extremely long arms and legs. My take is that people with short arms benefit more from higher bars

Frame size corresponds only to height, not body proportions. Some people have longer legs while others have shorter legs at the same height. For those with longer legs, riding a bike of the same size can cause the center of gravity to shift too far forward, leading to discomfort and arm fatigue. Therefore, riders with longer legs need a higher handlebar position to adjust the balance. Conversely, those with shorter legs don't require such a high handlebar. Thus, finding the right handlebar height for your individual needs is what matters—there's no one-size-fits-all standard.

I just ordered fifty fifty brand bars with a 50mm rise cant wait for them to be here ❤

Every body will /need/ different dimensions from a given bike. So splitting hairs between 40 and 50mm is silly. But fundamentally, all things normalised, if you're front is higher you will feel more 'behind' your bike even in steeps.. whereas the low bars will have you feeling still 'ontop' of your bike even in steep climbs.
With higher front end you also get more leverage over the bike when it comes to manuals/bunnyhops etc

SO with those things in mind, can you get the best of both with.. god forbid... drop bars?! Where you have a high set for descents and a low set for climbs xD

Everything about the purple bike setup makes you stand up more on the bike. Like how jackson goldstone rides. You always have the option to put more weight over the front if you need it.

I run a 60mm spank bar.  Love it for general trail riding for all the reasons you mentioned.  However, during a recent enduro race, when I had to hammer out of the saddle for the inevitable sprint section, the downside to a high bar made itself obvious - I could not get my body shifted forwards and low enough to really lay down the power for a put of saddle sprint.  It was perhaps the only instance where this setup falls down (Dak Norton mentioned a similar observation in an interview too).  I never sprint during trail rides, so this went unnoticed til then.   I think I’d definitely run a lower bar for enduro races as sprinting in not my forte and I need every bit of advantage

I’m 6ft 3. Having just spent the past couple of weeks trying to demystify why I’m craving a higher bar on my new full 29 rig this video was a great watch! I think perhaps the geometry of a lot of new enduro rigs means our weight distribution relies more heavily on weight through the feet, even when cornering and as such a higher more comfortable cockpit, without the need to be worrying quite as much about pressing weight through your front wheel, makes everything else feel much more schwweeet. 🤔

The jury is still out! Great video 👏

Haven’t even watched this yet but can answer it, Ratboy for the win
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If the taller guy has longer arms, his centre of gravity in his torso is pushed further up and back.

The shorter guy is possibly replicating the same body position with higher bars.

What an interesting video ! I am on the other extreme: zero spacers, 30mm stem with zero rise and 15mm rise bars... Keep on riding !