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Lawyer Reacts To AI COPYRIGHT CLAIMED MY LAST VIDEO | Venus Theory

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In this Lawyer Reacts episode of the Top Music Attorney Podcast, Entertainment Attorney, Miss Krystle reacts to Venus Theory's video titled "AI Copyright Claimed My Last Video" and offers a lawyer's perspective on the growing issue of AI-generated content and copyright claims. The implications of AI-generated music and videos being falsely claimed are significant, especially for creators across platforms like YouTube. Miss Krystle dives into the question of whether creators truly own the copyright to music made with AI tools and discusses the potential pitfalls this poses for artists, musicians, and content creators who rely on AI-generated content.

Also explored is the legal gray areas surrounding AI, copyright, and ownership. As AI continues to evolve, it’s crucial for creators to understand how these changes could affect their content and livelihoods. The episode breaks down how easy it is for someone to falsely copyright claim AI-generated work and highlights the challenges that creators may face navigating the murky waters of copyright law in the digital age. If you're a musician or content creator, this is an essential watch to protect yourself from the AI-driven copyright issues ahead.

Legal Disclaimer: The information, ideas, and suggestions in this video are not intended to be legal advice. Before following any suggestions contained in this video, you should consult your personal attorney. The speaker shall not be liable or responsible for any loss or damage allegedly arising as a consequence of your use or application of any information or suggestion in this video. Pursuant to the fair use doctrine under the 1978 Copyright Act, a copyrighted work owned by another may be used for criticism, commentary, news reporting, and educational purposes. The use of the livestream contained in this video falls within the fair use doctrine.
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@TopMusicAttorney Creator 1 year ago Pinned

Do you think AI will make it harder or easier for artists to protect their work?

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@Stoney3K 1 year ago

The problem is with ContentID. There is no burden of proof when someone submits something to the Content ID database that the copyright is actually theirs and that means there are a lot of false copyright claims being submitted, often through automated processes. Even more so, if a copyright dispute is won by the original uploader, there are no consequences for the person who filed the claim, so that opens up the opportunity to just take a shotgun approach and file blanket claims against anything that could remotely be copyright infringement, or even deliberate abuse by copying other people's work, re-uploading it and submitting it to ContentID as being the "original" while it is not.

@JodyBruchon 1 year ago

YouTube makes it nearly impossible to file an official DMCA counter-notification. I've disputed things in the past and almost every time I get a response that "it's unclear to us whether you have a legitimate right to make a claim." Uh, no, YouTube, the law doesn't say that you get to subjectively reject counter-notification.

@TheWizardsRoom 1 year ago

Proof of burden should not be on the creator, but the person claiming.
YouTubes system forces you to present your personal information without the claimers info.
It not only leaves creators vulnerable, but it allows people to dox without repercussions.
Copyright laws need to be updated to fit modern standards.
YouTube also needs to be better.

@djlick2 1 year ago

Well done, that was a great reaction video. Cameron makes great content, and yeah, his lighting is amazing. He's been working on it for years, and really puts in the effort on the production side.

@mishaguyas 1 year ago

Back in 2019 I purchased a license from a YouTube content creator for the use on one of their songs. Every time I upload something I made with that song, YT (HAAWK?) flags me for copyright violations, and I submit my "use license number" and the strike gets removed in 1 to 3 days.

I started uploading some of my videos to Facebook, including one that used that music I purchased a license for. While checking on my video performence on FB, I noticed a note from FB saying my music was muted because more than 500 different foreign based music companies claimed they owned to rights to the music I used... many of them claiming different sections of the music I had a license for used 1 to 3 second clips from songs their artists owned. I disputed it, and gave Facebok the name of the song, and artist I'd purchased a license from, and my license number, and said they had no claim. After 3 months, FB sided with the foreign companies, and gave them ad revinue earned of my best performing video. I pulled it off FB and shared a link to the same video on YT.

Now, I know this video (above) is specifically talking about YouTube, but this problem is happening elsewhere... and FB will side with others against the content creator, too.

Theft is big business.

@adrimathlener8008 1 year ago

What really counts is what Venus Theory tells starting at 36:10

@MusiclyricsByECDaleyC 1 year ago

Thank you for being here, and I did see this "Venus Theory" video before, however, I have been writing songs for at least 50 years now, and it is truly disheartening to think this is where we find ourselves today! To me, it's my heart and soul that is potentially being stolen from me!
PS: I have had people ask me if they could perform a few of my songs over the years, recently, a stranger saw me playing a song I wrote, and told me "his friend who recently passed away" was covering my song, as he loved it saying it was one of his favorite songs! I was very flattered, as I have never released my music other than a few posted songs by me " with no A-1 involved" at all! A close friend as me if he could do my song on a new CD he made just a few short years a go called "My night With you" ! His name is "Fly Amero", a fantastic artist and writer himself, and it's on his album "Beautiful World" available on most music selling platforms. I met Fly met, because he literally learned it live, with me performing at his open Mic. He has to joined me in many times over the years, and it was amazing having him back me up, and the people seemed to like it a lot too!

@TiagoSilveira 1 year ago

On getting a federal registration, it feels weird to me that the publishing date of the original song on a public space would not suffice as a defense against a malicious claim. Why should musicians pay $65 so that they have an older piece of paper? It's 2024, publishing is nearly free. The pricing favours corporations in accessing the judicial system.

@ArtemisKitty 1 year ago

It's even worse for content creators who with to keep their identity anonymous, because as I understand it, part of the process of challenging these false claims on YT is to reveal your true name, address, phone number, and email to the accuser. This has been recently weaponised several times against multiple Vtuber and other "behind the mask" type content creators, and has even resulted in multiple assaults and stalking cases that got so serious the FBI had to get involved. I know a few creators who lost their entire YouTube account to false claims because of this exact danger, as they had already been fighting "bad actors" on that front.

@bshawlab 1 year ago

The royalty free thing has been an issue long before AI music was a big deal

@iannansel740 1 year ago

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@LihimSidhe 1 year ago

So what I gathered is traditional musicians absolutely should 1. get their music into the content ID system asap. it seems these copyright battles is very much a first come first serve dynamic. 2. they should register their music with the federal goverment asap.

and for people that only use AI as their sole tool, they have to do the above as well BUT they have to add SOMETHING of genuine human authorship to the music for it to hold up in court. so for people that use AI to prompt their masterpieces into existence that they're particulaly proud of, it would be worth it for them to pay musicians to play the songs and THEN do all of the above.

@violetshades 1 year ago (edited)

You're right there is action you can take to fight for your rights if you registered with the copyright office. However, most people who make music are just doing it for a hobby and because they love making music. Most people don't have the kind of money to spend $35+ on every single they release, let alone pay for attorney fees and whatever other fees that come up in the future.

You also have to understand that more and more people are moving away from making NPC music which is what a LOT of artists are trying to make because it makes money, and that copyright rules NEED to reflect the modern times. There's more things that go into a song now these days and it just feels like America is trapping itself in a box for no actual reason.

This isn't the 1970's where commerial music was (and still is) repetitive for the masses and only composers could work for movies. If it's a passion project where we make beautiful arrangements that sound like no one elses music, which a lot of people are doing now, and if AI ever gets to a point where the music starts sounding like people such as Alexander Panos or B.T. just to name a few names, there's just nothing we can do at that point.

The fact of the matter is the US law is based upon an incredibly outdated system that needs to change, period.

@bashkillszombies 1 year ago

What confuses me is how random copyright is now. People can twerk to top hits on TikTok and Instagram, but I've had LITERAL SILENCE copystruck on YouTube. YouTube is draconian with censorship though, even commenting gets false flagged and struck often.

@Harvey_Pekar 1 year ago

This shit is going to tie up courts for the next ten years, at least.
It's going to be a nightmare.

@impheris 1 year ago (edited)

i can't believe how uninspired, uncreative untalented people can harm so much to creative people, this is not happening just on the music industry. Also youtube is a big problem too

@EspressosWork 1 year ago (edited)

Hello legal friend. New watcher, found you after watching the original video. I passed the bar in Florida a very long time ago, but no longer practice. This really brought me back.

In regards to AI training on music streaming and claiming fair-use, you can't monetize on fair use content... and the full clip has to be under a certain number of seconds, which after using Suno for a bit to test-- it's very, VERY obvious it did not limit training time on individual songs down to less than a sample size. Fair use is also specifically in the house of educational and transformative or parody... or building... derivative-- as you clearly outlined. I suppose it's easier to understand in the terms of fiction over music when it comes to the average consumer.

While similar, it's harder to extrapolate in music. Terminology is the real difficult part in cases such as these. This is technology. Technology is not human, so is technology capable of protection under fair-use law? It isn't. It never should be. It is not limited in scope nor completion over time. Technology-aided tools were already a massive migraine for the music industry. I do hear that this is just another step in the future when it comes to that concept-- but I am not entirely convinced.

In the art-world, we are seeing more-and-more ai being trained on art-tutorials rather than completed art. A very interesting concept. It shows that these models are capable of learning very similar to a person. Does it provide value, however? That is the crux of the problem. Is there anything that a model can create that provides any sort of transformative value to any artistic field?

It's a deep issue. I don't have an answer.

@MaryemNasri 1 year ago

It should be mandatory for AI generators to watermark the outcome so that it can be identified when uploaded somewhere else.

@SailingSarah 1 year ago (edited)

I often first create a piece with just vocals and acoustic guitar, providing my own lyrics. Music doesn't always come to me like that but I generally use this approach when using AI, just like if I were presenting a piece to a band. I generally set the settings to stick as close to my original piece as possible and prevent any "weirdness" or other AI influence if possible. My main objective is largely to polish what I've fed in. There have been cases when I would experience software glitches and end up with a fresh perspective on an element or an entire piece. Some of these examples I'm inclined to adopt. The way I see it is during the creative process traditionally I would run a piece by my band and each member might suggest or add his own spin and often guys would offer arrangement suggestions, add, delete or modify parts, sometimes the piece would come out far different than I had imagined because of these performer interpretations and stylistic adjustments on the fly. I've come to see AI as being a band I can collaborate with and even receive stylistic feedback or suggestions to weigh and decide if I'm willing to keep or discard any feedback. It shaves weeks and possibly years of morphing as I've written music that years later resembles almost nothing of what the original idea was shooting for.